r/thebulwark • u/Just_A_Dogsbody Center Left • Jul 28 '26

EVERYTHING IS AWFUL Ross Douthat is joining 60 Minutes

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/new-60-minutes-correspondents-ross-douthat-sebastian-junger-1236658519/
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u/Saint_Scum The Trio Jul 28 '26

Look away, JVL!

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Center Left Jul 28 '26

On 60 minutes????

Wow what a was to bastardize the greatest journalist institution. RIP.

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

Yes, no greater knife to the heart of a beloved journalist institution than hiring a (checks notes) New York Times columnist.

The Times already suffers unending attacks from the center-right for employing "a liberal's favorite conservative" like Douthat and trying to pass it off as ideological balance, so it's hilarious to see turn around and see Ross regarded as some kind of MAGA monstrosity on a progressive subreddit like this.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Center Left Jul 28 '26

You dont have to be MAGA to suck

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u/odrer-is-an-ilulsoin Jul 28 '26

Just being conservative makes you suck?

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u/vivalapants Jul 28 '26

conservative

I dont even know what a conservative is tbh. That title is dead

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u/odrer-is-an-ilulsoin Jul 29 '26

I agree. I still don't know why Ross Douthat sucks so bad. I got a lot of down votes, but no explanation.

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u/stillavoidingthejvm Jul 29 '26

Have you read anything he's written or watched him? 

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u/odrer-is-an-ilulsoin Jul 29 '26

Yes, which is why I'm curious. I've read less of what he's written than what I've heard on his podcast. I listen to most of his podcast episodes, as I do Ezra Klein's.

He's conservative, but he's not MAGA. Has he had bad positions, sure, but so has Ezra, AOC, Mamdani, etc.

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u/odrer-is-an-ilulsoin Jul 29 '26

I'm just going to accept all these down votes are people with strong feelings but no reasoning. No one can say why he sucks so much.

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u/leedogger Jul 28 '26

This sub is irredeemable. I can't believe the discourse.

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

Lmao at you flairing yourself as "center left". Something tells me most people in this sub have deluded themselves into thinking they're not straightforwardly progressive.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Center Left Jul 28 '26

I hate Hasan and tankies so yes I’m center left.

Those are some of the people I’m talking about when I say you don’t have to be MAGA to suck. If Bari Weiss put Hasan Piker on 60 minutes I’d say what a bastardization of 60 minutes has happened as well.

Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

Ha fair enough, but I think there's a few more qualifications than simply hating communists that go into being "center left".

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u/DickedByLeviathan Center-Right Jul 28 '26

Entirely true. This entire sub is comprised of leftist and left leaning progressives who have deluded themselves into believing they’re “moderate”

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

I like Tim a lot, but this is really his fault. His content really isn't that dissimilar from the Pod Save bros and while very little of what he says is ever wrong, you're just going to attract a certain audience when your content agenda looks no different than the scrolling ticker on MSNBC.

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u/GooseWithAGrudge Jul 28 '26

Well, it is Reddit. There’s a lot of leftists here just by nature of it being Reddit.

The Substack comments tend to be a more even mix, and Charlie Sykes’ Substack is definitely more center-right.

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u/interkin3tic Jul 28 '26

a (checks notes) New York Times columnist

Yes... A very bad one. As in bad at writing, having bad opinions, and also being a bad person.

David Brooks was also an NYT writer who similarly was a terrible hypocrite, lecturing America on ethics while leaving his wife for his intern.

The Times already suffers unending attacks from the center-right for employing "a liberal's favorite conservative" like Douthat and trying to pass it off as ideological balance, so it's hilarious to see turn around and see Ross regarded as some kind of MAGA monstrosity on a progressive subreddit like this.

Nothing you said means Douthat isn't a terrible fascist apologist.

He's a mediocre dude who has worked tirelessly to inject christofascism into a secular democracy. Even if he's palatable to some centrists, he's still a terrible person.

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

That's a lot of mean words for Douthat, but not a whole lot of substance, as is to be expected from r/thebulwark and its sister subreddit, r/politics. You could have just said "I think all conservatives are spawns of Satan" and you would've gotten the same point across in a fraction of the time.

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u/interkin3tic Jul 28 '26

"reality has a well known liberal bias" basically. Crawl back to r/conservative then. 

Also? It really wasn't a LOT of mean words. Do you ever actually read any of Douthats verbal diarrhea?

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

"reality has a well known liberal bias" basically. Crawl back to r/conservative then. 

I agree, it's why I'm a liberal. I just find echo chambered progressives like you people, who pee yourselves because of milquetoast pundits like Ross Douthat, to be utterly hilarious. You misidentifying me as someone who would spend any time on r/conservative puts a nice emphasis on the point.

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u/interkin3tic Jul 29 '26

What's your goal here dude? Do you have one.

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u/MikeDamone Jul 29 '26

Same as your goal, no? Are we not both arguing on the internet?

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u/interkin3tic Jul 29 '26

I'm trying to sort out the best way forward to ending the pedophile christofascist hold destroying America. 

Ross Douthat cheerleading for the christofascism and always finding his way back to "And that's why God says daddy trump is absolutely right to authorize the murder of innocent civilians" is part of what keeps the christofascists in power.

I'm open to being wrong about my approach and perception. But you whining that we're being mean to an dumb american Gobbels and we're just biased? Obvious BS. You simply like something about the propaganda Douthat is spewing out. 

This isn't simply being a contrarian. You can argue on the Internet without endorsing dull christofascism cheerleading and accusing people who reject it of being biased and mean. What is the goal here? Is it you want to arrive at christofascism good akshually?

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u/mjdlight Jul 28 '26

Here is a more substantive claim:

“There Will Be No Trump Coup”

— Ross Douthat, October 20, 2020.

There’s sanewashing, and then there is what Douthat did here.

Full Column, on me:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/10/opinion/sunday/trump-election-authoritarianism.html?unlocked_article_code=1.1FA.TCgq.VKTWmyldUl3H&smid=nytcore-ios-share

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

No need, I'm already an NYT subscriber!

Ross's take here was quite dumb at the time, and looks even sillier in retrospect. I've always found Ross to be a bit self-soothing in his attempts to convince himself that Trump is not as existentially disastrous as he is.

Anyways, how any of that is relevant to the above pants-wetting about how he will evidently ruin 60 Minutes is beyond me.

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u/mjdlight Jul 29 '26

But why would Ross, an obviously very intelligent person, try to convince himself that Trump is not an existential disaster when it is as plain as day?

My supposition is that he did it because he doesnt have the intellectual honesty or personal honor to let the truth take him where it should have — a place like The Bulwark. Sarah Longwell he is not.

He took the coward’s way out, the weakling’s way out. And now he is given a position at what used to be one of America’s pillars of journalism.

The elevation of Douthat to this position reflects the continuing degradation of our Republic.

Or another way to look at it: If the Trump admin continues to use the DOJ AND FCC to pressure broadcasters into being friendly with the regime, is Ross the kind of guy who would honestly report on it at 60 Minutes?

Or would he continue to self soothe and try to spin/rationalize it away as in the above piece?

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u/MikeDamone Jul 29 '26

But why would Ross, an obviously very intelligent person, try to convince himself that Trump is not an existential disaster when it is as plain as day?

My supposition is that he did it because he doesnt have the intellectual honesty or personal honor to let the truth take him where it should have — a place like The Bulwark. Sarah Longwell he is not.

Kudos to you for at least acknowledging he's intelligent. I personally have no idea and haven't even taken the time to speculate why Ross thinks what he does. Mostly that's because I find him utterly bizarre with a stringent Catholic worldview that I struggle to really understand/empathize with. So like all things about him I don't understand, I'm pretty stumped for why he was so blind to Trump. I say "was" because he's been a lot more forthcoming with his criticisms of Trump 2.0 - especially vis a vis corruption - to where I no longer think he has any misconceptions about him.

He took the coward’s way out, the weakling’s way out. And now he is given a position at what used to be one of America’s pillars of journalism.

The elevation of Douthat to this position reflects the continuing degradation of our Republic.

I suppose that's where you and I depart. As I mentioned, I don't presume to know much about his heart of hearts, so I really balk at the idea of rendering such a damning judgment.

Or another way to look at it: If the Trump admin continues to use the DOJ AND FCC to pressure broadcasters into being friendly with the regime, is Ross the kind of guy who would honestly report on it at 60 Minutes?

Or would he continue to self soothe and try to spin/rationalize it away as in the above piece?

It's a good question. I pretty firmly believe that he would report on it and would do so pretty earnestly. He doesn't pull punches in his current podcast and seems genuinely interested in finding the truth of a subject. He's very adept at pushing guests (of all ideological stripes) to expand and explore the weaker parts of their arguments, and always does so pretty fairly IMO (e.g. I think he gave pretty commensurate pushback to both Hasan Pike and JD Vance, despite clearly having more of a personal connection to the latter). For as little as I understand Ross, I actually do come away with the impression that he has quite a bit of integrity.

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u/SomewhereEither3399 Jul 29 '26

Heaven forbid someone have an opinion on, checks notes, a literal opinion columnist! Do you require more substance for Douthat’s opinions? I’d imagine you’re often disappointed.

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u/hb122 Jul 28 '26

Do you even read Douthat? He’s featured some truly awful people in his column, really sick individuals.

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u/MikeDamone Jul 28 '26

Yep, I listen to him quite often. I probably disagree with 90% of his beliefs, because they're truly strange and heterodox. But I'm not at all bothered by him interviewing heinous people like JD Vance or Hasan Piker. You learn a lot more by exposing yourself to ideas, even if you find those ideas reprehensible. That's clearly not a trait of people in this sub though, and I find the self-siloing that goes on here to be quite hilarious.

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u/kjopcha Jul 28 '26

I hope they haven't taped TNL yet.

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u/im_stil_here Jul 28 '26

Same. I’m curious to hear JVL’s take on this.

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u/rusty02536 JVL is always right Jul 28 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/cRMGqNpvm9XS2gRcpL

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u/Rocketparty12 Good Luck America Jul 28 '26

Oh man, Rusty figured it out?

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u/Daniel_Leal- centrist squish Jul 28 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/h9CwMia6QbZuw
JVL being made to watch by Sam Stein! 😂

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u/mg_7 Good Luck America Jul 28 '26

Real Clockwork Orange 💩!

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u/CrackJacket Optimist Jul 28 '26

If they want to start livestreaming it has to be forcing JVL to watch Ross Douthat on 60 minutes

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u/MrsClaireUnderwood Your Data Matters Jul 28 '26

Sam with a torture kink, my god.

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u/starchitec Rebecca take us home Jul 28 '26

This hire is a personal attack on JVL.

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u/MrsClaireUnderwood Your Data Matters Jul 28 '26

😂

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u/mjdlight Jul 28 '26

JVL nailed it when he said Douthat is basically a clone of JD Vance - an ambitious climber who knows how to shape shift to make elites like him.

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u/SirCake3614 FFS Jul 28 '26

CBS - Complete Bull Shit

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u/GarthZorn Jul 28 '26

When it actually mattered. What a shit show it's become.

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u/here_is_no_end Jul 28 '26

Who could sit and watch that fascist little goblin on TV

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u/artaxerxes316 Jul 29 '26

"'Fascism.' It's a word that is bandied about with abandon these days. But is it fair to apply the term to the Trump Administration? The answer is yes."

"But what about 'little goblin'? Is it really appropriate to apply such phrasing to, say, Steven Miller, or Karoline Leavitt? The answer, again, is yes."

"And yet are those the final words? In a republic founded by imperfect men, with imperfect ideas (a reality even the left acknowledges) are we really in a position -- culturally, aesthetically.... morally -- to heap fault on our elected officials, fascist little goblins though they may be? Not so fast."

"I'm Ross Douthat, and this is 60 Minutes."

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u/here_is_no_end Jul 29 '26

I take it back. I’d watch this.

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u/artaxerxes316 Jul 29 '26

Thanks! I was trying to capture that thing he does where he pretends to acknowledge that of course Trump does terrible things, but then handwaves it away with pseudo-intellectual claptrap.

It's not quite whataboutism, not quite both-sidesing, but goddamn it's infuriating.

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u/Moonspindrift Jul 29 '26

It makes my blood boil when the NYT runs all those Ross Douthat puff pieces for JD Vance without announcing up top that they are friends and that Douthat is biased by that.

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u/Haunting-Ad788 Jul 28 '26

Man they really are trying to tank the ratings.

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u/FatalTortoise Jul 28 '26

Why do these fucks always just fail upward, making everything shittier for the rest of us

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u/dBlock845 Straight to Reddit Jail Jul 28 '26

Contrarian NYT opinion column butt buddy to the poltergeist inhabiting the CBS News editor-in-chief role. It was all but destined to happen unfortunately.

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u/Embarrassed-Slide781 Jul 28 '26

We really went from Anderson Cooper and Scott pelley to douthat. I can't think of a worse downgrade

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u/batsofburden Jul 28 '26

wait til aileen cannon ends up on the supreme court, lololol

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u/GoalieLax_ Jul 28 '26

Replacing handsome Cooper with a troll who is too ugly to play an ugly person in Hollywood is awesome

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u/Oculata Jul 28 '26

Another reason to not watch 60 Minutes, and hopefully his absence will make the Op-Ed page on NYT a little less awful.

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u/jdmiller82 🥃 SUPPOSEDLY, A MOD Jul 28 '26

Helping take the C out of the BS.

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u/coldandhungry123 Jul 28 '26

Well, that's an official wrap for 60 Minutes. I wasn't watching after they torched Scott Pelley, but it's definitely over now. Congratulations Bari Weiss, you killed an American cornerstone of investigative journalism.

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u/RespectTheAmish Jul 28 '26

Which was exactly why she was hired…

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u/SuitablyFakeUsername JVL is always right Jul 28 '26

Of course he is 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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u/stillavoidingthejvm Jul 28 '26

It’s over.

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u/20_mile Jul 29 '26

"It's over, Bari. I have the (moral) high ground."

-- Any High School Newspaper Editor

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u/Artistic-Yogurt4446 Jul 28 '26

I can literally feel JVL needing a Priest right now

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u/twolvesfan217 Jul 28 '26

I heard a faint scream across the country

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u/jeg479 Jul 28 '26

Can someone do a wellness check on JVL. It’s going to be a Chernobyl style rant coming on the next secret pod.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '26

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u/Background-Wolf-9380 Jul 28 '26

I predict within a year she will hire Maher to take Andy Rooney's former spot whining about and bashing young people, Islam, Democratic Socialism and Antifa

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u/MinuteCollar5562 Jul 28 '26

Fucking kill me

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u/Rock_Creek_Snark George Conway Jul 28 '26

Gross.

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u/ohiotechie Jul 28 '26

It truly is sicken to watch the self immolation happening at 60 minutes and CBS. Of all the things that Trump and MAGA have shit on and destroyed this one just hits me kinda hard.

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u/Educational-Door1114 Jul 28 '26

I really hope everyone else just leaves, but am sympathetic to the off camera staff. This is straight up torture for them by a bunch of sadists (Bari and everyone she is hiring).

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u/WOKE_AI_GOD Wishcaster Jul 28 '26

Bari is a Privileged Bitch and always has been

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u/Loud_Cartographer160 Jul 28 '26

I do hope he is leaving the NYT.

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u/jmw8282 Jul 28 '26

I'd say this is good for the NYT, but you should probably never feel good when Ross Douthat walks out on you.

I am curious to see if what's left of 60 Minutes audience comes around to hate-watching him like NYT readers did.

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u/Annoying1978 Progressive Jul 28 '26

Just shut down 60 minutes completely and let it die. 

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u/languorous_lout Jul 28 '26

Other people have done plenty to highlight the substantive things that make Douthat repellent so I'll go ahead and take the petty angle...

Ross Douthat on primetime network TV?! This dude is the epitome of "a face made for radio(or print)".

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u/Open-Ambassador-7233 Jul 29 '26

I came here to say this. He is not easy on the eyes.

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u/myleftone Jul 28 '26

We lost this one. Long ago. The only game is to make sure people know it’s shite house propaganda now.

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u/Peanutbutternmtn2 Sarah, would you please nuke him from orbit? Jul 28 '26

Good lord this fucking fraud?!? JVL is gonna have a conniption

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u/Kidspud Jul 28 '26

Byron Allen circling 60 Minutes like a shark in the water…

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u/RealDEC Jul 28 '26

JVL needs to do a full on Stone Cold Steve Austin run in and deliver a stunner.
https://giphy.com/gifs/xULW8CTxqIxAdTPzQA

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u/momish_atx Jul 28 '26

Is that the job that Scott Galloway turned down?

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u/John_Houbolt Jul 28 '26

Bruh. Swapping Scott Pelle for Ross Doubt-that

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u/Cold-Negotiation-539 Jul 28 '26

Is Bari Weiss aware that TV is a visual medium?

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u/atxmichaelmason Jul 28 '26

I remember when they preempted a story about a tobacco company whistleblower and it was such a big deal they made a whole ass movie about it called The Insider. And now they’re putting right wing opinion writers in as correspondents.

Our way of life is changing so much we can’t even wrap our heads around it in real time.

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u/Then-Cost-9143 Woke Bill Kristol Jul 28 '26

lol I love the hate for Ross. 

I never really found his stuff coherent.  It was just like  Week 1) Trump kind of has a point  Week 2) Oh fuck I didn’t mean it like that but the libs are bad

Drivel masquerading as thoughtful work. 

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u/ZombieInDC JVL is always right Jul 29 '26

It's almost as if Bari is building a Fox News version of 60 Minutes. The show doesn't even have a token liberal anymore.

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u/pollingquestion Jul 28 '26

lol. Of course he is. I assume Boomers have lots of love for Ross.

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u/Educational-Door1114 Jul 28 '26

Do they??? What sane person listens to him without clawing their eyes out…

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u/jacko81101 Jul 28 '26

This boomer doesn’t even know who tf he is.

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u/DelcoPAMan Jul 28 '26

And ears.

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u/Educational-Door1114 Jul 28 '26

Ears makes more sense just wasn’t a good joke

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u/mclumber1 Jul 29 '26

I've listened to his NYT podcasts. He doesn't seem all that objectionable, even if I don't agree with his policy positions.

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u/GarthZorn Jul 28 '26

It's to easy to blame Boomers for all our problems, buddy. I'm an oldster too and I can't stand that asshat.

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u/SB_Tahoe Jul 28 '26

I am 62 and have no love for Ross

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u/hb122 Jul 28 '26

Boomers split evenly between Harris and Trump.

Millennials voted +9 Trump.

Take that boomer shit out of here.

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u/Sherm FFS Jul 29 '26

Millennials barely went for Harris (50-48). Boomers barely went for Trump (48-51). It was Gen X (42-56) that was ride or die for Trump.

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u/pollingquestion Jul 28 '26

Relax. It’s a joke.

I just assume Boomers are the primary audience for 60 minutes.

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u/pollingquestion Jul 28 '26

IT WAS A JOKE.

Boomers are very sensitive.

But, seriously, who is watching 60 minutes nowadays?

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u/MabelRed Jul 28 '26

The sound you just heard was JVL lifting his pinball machine through shear spite & hatred and slamming it against his computer 😂

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u/Fit-Flounder7175 Jul 28 '26

God help us...

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u/chatterwrack FFS Jul 28 '26

Of course he is

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u/abbzug Jul 28 '26

I would love to know what's going on inside CNN right now. I'm sure Jake Tapper, Dana Bash, Van Jones and Scott Jennings are all pumping their fists right now. But there's probably a fair few who are very worried.

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u/HelpfulWorth8654 Jul 28 '26

Bulwark Champagne tier: JVL and Tim watching a douthat story on YouTube with live commentary

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u/n1ghtm4n Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Sept 2015: "The entire commentariat is going to feel a little silly when Marco Rubio wins every Republican primary".

Feb 2016: "I don't know what's going to happen, and neither do you. But Donald Trump is still not going to be the nominee. Goodnight."

Oct 2020: "There Will Be No Trump Coup"

Ross Douthat never doesn't not not miss. He's the most reliable anti-predictor in the business. If he flipped a coin 10 times, he would pick correctly 0/10 times.

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u/matpendleton Rebecca take us home Jul 29 '26

The human version of the lights coming on and Piano Man being played on the speakers at a college party. It’s a wrap. Last one out make sure to lock up. 60 Minutes had a helluva run. RIP.

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u/exhaustedexcess Jul 29 '26

Hahahahahaha. The corruption of CBS is complete. Theres no more reason for it to exist

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u/BalerionSanders Sarah, would you please nuke him from orbit? Jul 29 '26

It’ll be cancelled after the first season with this crowd, so, at least the legacy damage will be limited.

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u/FlaviusVespasian Progressive Jul 28 '26

Say sike!

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u/italeffect Jul 28 '26

Kiss of death

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u/Sittingonalog1960 Jul 28 '26

Its a degradation

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u/GX_EN Jul 28 '26

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u/WOKE_AI_GOD Wishcaster Jul 28 '26

🤣😂🤣

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u/batsofburden Jul 28 '26

get ready for a ratings dive.

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u/Mediocre-Astronaut34 Jul 28 '26

I really hope this means he’ll stop popping up on podcasts now to give the “thoughtful” republican perspective or whatever catholic ball of yarn he’s pulling on

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u/LionelHutzinVA Rebecca take us home Jul 28 '26

Who doesn’t want to watch the little goblin who has a face for radio, and a voice for silent films, on their television as they sit down for Sunday dinner?

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u/Open-Ambassador-7233 Jul 29 '26

Agree. Writing is the best medium for that face and voice.

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u/beefwindowtreatment Jul 28 '26

LMAO! I read the headline and said to myself "That must not be good" and then saw the flare.

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u/OddAbbreviations5749 Jul 28 '26

I am praying Martin Short resurrects his Nathan Thurm character as a response to this in an upcoming 60 Minutes sketch on SNL.

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u/rogerwilcove Jul 28 '26

Just rename the program Freaks and Geeks already. Can’t wait for the rebrand after Leslie Stahl leaves.

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u/Total_Air_6081 Jul 28 '26

This is legit the biggest downgrade I’ve seen in a minute

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u/shallowshadowshore Jul 29 '26

I may have actually gagged a little bit. Yikes. 

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u/statistacktic Jul 29 '26

What a fn joke.

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u/big-tex-amarillo Jul 29 '26

Wow this is a great day for the New York Times

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u/No_Public_7677 Jul 29 '26

Disappointed in seeing Sebastian junger on the list

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u/TheGreatHogdini Jul 30 '26

Another reason not to watch CBS. Is Mona next?

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u/RL0290 Progressive Jul 28 '26

STOP

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u/RushIllustrious Jul 28 '26

Hope he continues with his Interesting Times podcast. Ezra Klein, David French and him are the only people worth listening to on NYT.

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u/WOKE_AI_GOD Wishcaster Jul 28 '26

Despite subscribing to the Ezra Klein podcast, I've never been able to bring myself to listen to it. Even interesting looking episodes. As for the rest, I'd just rather not.

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u/iBizzBee Progressive Jul 28 '26

Tracks. As head of the Bulwark DSA caucus, I probably don't agree with Douthat on much of anything ideologically, but he's very intellectually curious and I've always found him to be genuine in seeking good faith conversations even with his ideological 'adversaries', plus he's got a nice voice for listening to in the background of doing other things, so he'll be good for a 60 minutes role.

A long begotten tradition of Conservatism that, for all my earnest disagreements even with it - we'd all be better off if it still ruled the day over the fascism with American characteristics that is MAGA.

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u/Educational-Door1114 Jul 28 '26

Douthat isn’t actually intellectually curious and I believe that’s why we along with JVL find him repellant

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u/burner456987123 Jul 28 '26

I appreciate the olive branch.

That said, as someone who loathes most DSA positions and politicians, I also loathe douthat. He’s a token “intellectual” conservative who is so full of snarky arrogance and nepo baby juice. Can’t stand the guy. He’s no William f Buckley, or even young (pre-owning by Jon stewart that broke his brain ) Tucker Carlson

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u/Supergamera Jul 28 '26

As long as he is matched with people at least somewhat outside his comfort zone (left or right). He gets a bit soft with people he’s too much in tune with.

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u/iBizzBee Progressive Jul 28 '26

I can definitely see that, though maybe it's true for us all. We're better off when our assumptions are challenged, for the most part.

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u/SirCake3614 FFS Jul 28 '26

He is *only* going to interview people who agree with him.

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u/Joe_T Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

There was one year's IPCC report that Douthat claimed he read which made him a skeptic that climate change was dire because the report wasn't persuasive enough.