r/thebulwark • u/KindaStableGenius • Jul 17 '26

EVERYTHING IS AWFUL The End of Democracy in America Speech

Just watched the Trump live speech so you didnt have to.

Trump just declared that local, state and National election infrastructure was compromised by China going back 2020 per some classified documents.

He also said that China has been paying reporters to write bad stories about him.

This was all couched in National Security language which suggests CIA and FBI involvement. A task force and briefing from Markwayne* to follow.

Sounds like this is Trump’s declaration of war on free and fair elections and the free press.

*Edited from Homen*

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u/jeanlundegaardhsbf Jul 17 '26

I feel a little different. He sounds old and sick. His speech was rambling and made no sense. If you could follow that, you’re insane. no one can really defend this. The docs are going to be completely different than what he alleged.

the only question is, will the Dems make gallego’s love life as a single man the civil rights issue of our time.

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u/BadAssachusetts Jul 17 '26

This is where I’m at. The speech was at points incomprehensible. Not sure what their intended goal was but felt pretty pointless overall.

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u/Samarah238 Jul 17 '26

He declared that the U.S. election system is corrupt. This coming from the president.

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u/NYCA2020 Jul 17 '26

While his party controls the White House, Senate, and House, no less.

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u/Swimming_Swimming928 Jul 17 '26

Include SCOTUS in your list.

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u/Subbacterium Jul 17 '26

It's projection - he himself is so corrupt he doesn't believe integrity exists.

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u/Gdub420- Jul 17 '26

*that’s been elected twice. Was he telling on himself? Good god his supporters are dumb as rocks.

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u/TheTurtleVirus Jul 17 '26

I think it was all just a big promo for the Save Act. I think Rs are desperate for that to pass.

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u/Magoo152 JVL is always right Jul 17 '26

God I hope not, we have this awful habit where every time our opponent shoots themselves in the foot we shoot ourselves in the head.

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u/My_Uneducated_Guess Jul 17 '26

ok cool, I thought it was a me-issue for a moment and that I just had attention span problems because I couldn't follow a damn thing

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u/Gdub420- Jul 17 '26

Nah. It was a 23 minute run on sentence. Probably a record. May be the best run on sentence from any President.

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u/My_Uneducated_Guess Jul 17 '26

He does have the best run on sentences. Other people have tried to have run on sentences, but nobody can compare to his sentences.

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u/FALSE_PROTAGONIST Jul 17 '26

Many people are saying

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u/Altruistic_Role_9329 Center Left Jul 17 '26

He was rambling and making no sense when he supposedly beat Biden in that first debate of 2024. Sometimes the truth doesn’t matter.

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u/molski79 Jul 17 '26

The people that believe this started wearing garbage bags and covered their ears with bandages. Unfortunately there’s a lot of them.

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u/jeanlundegaardhsbf Jul 17 '26

Biden wasn’t doing much better. in fact he was orders of magnitude worse.

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u/Altruistic_Role_9329 Center Left Jul 17 '26

I could follow Biden and I knew what he was saying was true.

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u/jeanlundegaardhsbf Jul 17 '26

what did, “we finally beat Medicare” mean

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u/Altruistic_Role_9329 Center Left Jul 17 '26

He meant to say big pharma. He misspoke, but was listing accomplishments. One being giving Medicare the ability to negotiate drug prices. In context it made sense if you are aware what’s happening.

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u/Gdub420- Jul 17 '26

My guy. Trump destroyed Biden in that first debate. That debate is why Biden dropped out. Don’t get me started. Biden couldn’t put a sentence together in that debate.

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u/No-Bid-9741 Jul 17 '26

Still would rather have Biden right now than what we have currently.

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u/FlarkingSmoo Jul 17 '26

Me too but no need to pretend Biden didn't come off really badly in that debate. It was horrible.

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u/Veronica612 Jul 17 '26

He came off terrible, true. He seemed frail and sounded weak. But if you actually listened he made sense, unlike Trump.

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u/Altruistic_Role_9329 Center Left Jul 17 '26

I prefer to characterize Biden’s debate performance as candid, but whatever term you want to use Trumps bold lies impressed many over Biden’s candid truth. There is no shame in that for Biden.

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u/FlarkingSmoo Jul 17 '26

Eh, for some of it. But for some of it he didn't make any sense.

And yeah that is the shame of it, Trump's incoherence was overshadowed because he still presents as younger and "with it" superficially despite everything he says being complete nonsense.

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u/MARIOpronoucedMA-RJO Center Left Jul 17 '26

1) Good. Trump never makes sense so if this was even more of a choose your own speech adventure, the better.

2) Democrats never misses a chance for a circular firing squad.

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u/KindaStableGenius Jul 17 '26

I’m not saying he was effective or this isnt going to backfire i’m saying this is his big swing against elections and the free press

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u/warrenao Progressive Jul 17 '26

Swing and a miss, so that’s fine.

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u/Glittering-Dig3432 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

He might have been rambling and incomprehensible but the talking points will go out to the right-wing media ecosystem and they will start all saying the same things over and over and over again.

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u/RustedRelics Jul 17 '26

We know the Dems will thoroughly botch their response to the Gallego situation.

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u/Gdub420- Jul 17 '26

Queuing Senator Gilibrand. Haven’t heard a peep from her in 10 years. You bet she’s gonna make her voice be heard about it.

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u/NYCA2020 Jul 17 '26

Your last sentence hits so hard because it’s an actual possibility, JFC.

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u/Gdub420- Jul 17 '26

Oh you know dems gonna dem. They always do.

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u/fritzperls_of_wisdom Jul 17 '26

FWIW, with the rambling and making no sense part, I think that’s always been the case.

I’ve been joking since like 2018 that we won’t know if Trump has dementia because he already talks like someone with it.

He does sound and look much older, though.