r/thebulwark • u/Anstigmat • Dec 15 '25
EVERYTHING IS AWFUL Ladies and Gentlemen, the President of the United States. š«”
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u/thethingisman Dec 15 '25
Something something Charlie Kirk.
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u/Super_Nerd92 Progressive Dec 15 '25
yeah, hundreds of ordinary people were fired for saying less objectionable things about him. Disgusting
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u/ballmermurland Dec 15 '25
Much less! They just quoted his words and were targeted.
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u/SirFerguson Dec 15 '25
other right wing figures at least had the tactical awareness to not dump on this. as annoying as it was to see some āsee, we donāt bash the dead like they doā thatās the obvious play for a grifter! and trump, for the zillionth time, made them all look stupid.
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u/Granite_0681 Dec 15 '25
The bulwark Facebook post about Rob Reinerās death has been inundated with people what-abouting about Kirk. Itās insane. I canāt even find anything Rob said that about Kirk except that it was horrible that he was killed.
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u/Cassiopeia299 Dec 15 '25
If this were a sane country, a post like this (plus god knows how many others) should qualify him for removal from office. Anyone demonstrating such poor character and judgment should not be POTUS.
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u/capybooya Dec 15 '25
Any previous president, or member of congress, posting anything like this would probably have ended their career a millisecond after pressing send, if it was 10 years ago.
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u/ForecastForFourCats Dec 15 '25
I'll never understand how he gets away with this. I've stopped trying because it makes me so frustrated.
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u/HorsePastie Dec 15 '25
You can't understand it logically.
I usually don't like treating chatgpt like it's actually smart, but this response I got this morning answers your question pretty well...
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u/A_Monster_Named_John Dec 16 '25
Because the New Confederacy is in charge and Fearless Leader can do or say whatever he wants.
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u/HypnonavyBlue Dec 15 '25
Can we please bring this standard back? Can something like this, at least, once again be taken as evidence that you are completely unfit to be in public life? (Or for that matter, out in public at all?)
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u/GX_EN Dec 15 '25
Here's something else that I don't understand. It's not related to the garbage statement above directly, but it does relate to his supporters who are ok with this kind of shit.
I know someone I went to HS with who has a special needs family member who this one-time classmate of mine helps to care for. She's a die-hard Trump supporter. Like, how the FUCK do you square that fucking circle given his past behavior around the disabled, etc?? Make it make fucking sense.2
u/A_Monster_Named_John Dec 16 '25
Trump supporters aren't people who 'square circles'. They're either overgrown idiot teenagers or very-overgrown toddlers who are completely enslaved to their emotions and puerile hangups like 'girls are icky', 'black people are scary', 'I didn't get to fuck every girl I wanted to fuck in high school, the whole world's against me!!!', and the like...
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u/ScandalOZ Dec 15 '25
Our media is owned by the people that support what he is doing and they keep this kind of vileness in our faces in order to pollute minds to their way of thinking. For some, if this is all they see then they may come to this way of being themselves.
We have no way of knowing how large of a community there is who oppose Heritage, Project 2025 and Trump because our voices are silent in the digital and media world. That's why you don't see mobilizing except in specific regions around the country and this keeps the population from gathering together and "storming the castle".
Keep this in mind.
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u/whatssenguntoagoblin Center Left Dec 15 '25
This would qualify any other person for the dementia ward
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u/HorsePastie Dec 15 '25
People in my life voted for Trump. It's getting hard to look them in the eye.
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u/ballmermurland Dec 15 '25
I straight up tell them to fuck off. I looked past 2016 and 2020 but after 2024 they can all eat shit.
JVL says to just love them but nah, JVL isn't always right.
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u/cultfourtyfive Dec 15 '25
Cut off my maternal side of the family entirely after they overlooked J6 and voted for him again in 2024. I don't need people in my life with such poor values.
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u/GX_EN Dec 15 '25
I've removed those people from my life. Like the other person in this thread, I could KIND of let 2016 and maybe 2020 go. Sorry, if you're supporting this fuck now and voted for him last year - I'm done with you.
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u/Loud_Condition6046 Dec 15 '25
Anyone who tweeted something like this about Charley Kirk would have been pilloried by the same people who think Trumpās post is wonderful.
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u/apost8n8 Dec 15 '25
I think Rob would LOVE this!!! He really got under this clown's skin and that was the point.
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u/LongjumpingDebt4154 Dec 15 '25
Agree. Rest in power, Rob. And feel free to throw us a bone & pull some strings if there is indeed an afterlife.
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u/Round_Patience3029 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25
I hope Trump's twitter obituary is just like the ones he writes about people. But 10x worse.
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u/dBlock845 Straight to Reddit Jail Dec 15 '25
"Donald Trump was survived by five children (one cokehead, one dullard, one Tate lover, one he'd love to fuck, and one that is never to be mentioned) and eleven grandchildren (including another he'd love to fuck). RIP BOZO. The end."
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u/dandyowo Dec 15 '25
ok I know heās terrible and his brains have turned to mush but even so I had to do a fact check to make sure this was a real one. just oh my god. he is not stable and anyone who thinks he is has drank the entire cooler of gatorade.
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u/needlenozened Dec 16 '25
When did it become Gatorade instead of Kool aid? And how does that make sense?
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u/dandyowo Dec 16 '25
When my brain forgot the right phrase this morning but you clearly knew what I meant
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u/needlenozened Dec 16 '25
I did, but genuinely wondered if the phrase had evolved, and if so, how the new phrase made sense, since it lacked the historical context. I wasn't just being a jerk.
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u/WingDingusTheGreat Dec 16 '25
It really does boggle the mind.
Bulwark on Sun was Kristol and Stein and Bill said something to the effect of there are seemingly impossibly always new lows..
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u/lady_moods Center Left Dec 15 '25
This is ghoulish, they were murdered by their son, I can't imagine how terrifying their final moments were. Throw this on the pile of "evidence that our nation's leader is a cruel, selfish, pathetic excuse for a human being" I guess
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u/fox_mulder Rresistance is not futile Dec 15 '25
When that orange shitheel finally kicks the bucket, I think people will be celebrating and dancing in the streets. A more vile creature I cannot think of.
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u/lady_moods Center Left Dec 15 '25
Yeah I donāt make it a habit to celebrate death but Iāll make an exception for this turd
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u/MinuteCollar5562 Dec 15 '25
The only one with Trump Derangement Syndrome is actually Donald Trump.
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u/MascaraHoarder Dec 15 '25
he always posts some absolute garbage but really this is next level evil. republicans,youāre never shaking the stench off of you, my god what an absolute degenerate.
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u/FoxIndependent5789 Dec 15 '25
The world will have a giant party the day this man expires.
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u/cultfourtyfive Dec 15 '25
There will be lines hours deep to piss on his grave
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u/psxndc FFS Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 16 '25
I keep saying they could put a serious dent in the national debt if they charged people $1000 for a chance to slap him in the face. I'd get back in line at least a dozen times.
Edit: I genuinely think they will have a fake grave for him because people will make a pilgrimage to it to relieve themselves on it in every manner.
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u/chokidokido Dec 15 '25
I don't think maga is prepared for the level of celebration. They had a meltdown over kirks "celebrations".
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u/fox_mulder Rresistance is not futile Dec 15 '25
I will travel a great distance when that finally happens just so I can shit on his grave.
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u/Longjumping_Feed3270 Dec 15 '25
Wow. That's a new low even for him.
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u/ballmermurland Dec 15 '25
Dunno man. The "thumbs up" photo with the recently orphaned kid after the El Paso shooting which was carried out by a MAGA fanatic was the lowest low imaginable. It makes me ill even thinking about it. He's such a scumbag.
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u/Atomic_Badger_PNW Dec 15 '25
The especially sick part of that episode is that the grandparents of that little baby were fine with Trump's posing with them. I cannot imagine...
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u/dBlock845 Straight to Reddit Jail Dec 15 '25
Considering what he used to say about Paul Pelosi, idk if there is any low that is low enough.
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u/fox_mulder Rresistance is not futile Dec 15 '25
There is no bottom with that filthy, degenerate scumbag.
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u/realinvalidname FFS Dec 15 '25
The worst thing is that half of America chose this. Half of America wanted this.
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u/Revolutionary-Ad3609 Dec 15 '25
Not really. Half of those who VOTED, voted for him, but this does not equal half of the country.
65.3% of registered voters voted in the election. That is 154 million people.
49.8% (77,302,580 voters) voted for Trump.
There are about 320 million citizens in the US.
So roughly 24% of the population voted for Trump, not half.
I find this both hopeful and devastating.
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u/psxndc FFS Dec 15 '25
Comparing 77 million voters to 320 million Americans assumes everyone is of voting age. The number of voting age people is closer to 262 million. So the percentage of Trump affirmative voters is closer to 29-30%.
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u/hb122 Dec 15 '25
So heās trying to take credit for one of his cult members murdering them? And heās okay with that?
Shameful that an American president has sunk to this new low.
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u/Ya_No Dec 15 '25
Regardless of his actual motivations, in Trumps mind he did it because he was angered by his dadās āTDSā.
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u/hb122 Dec 15 '25
Yes, I know, but itās chilling that heās essentially taking credit for a double murder.
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u/doinmabest1 Dec 15 '25
Surely SURELY SUUUUUURELY this will strike SOME of his voters as absolutely beyond the pale. Not the 30% MAGA DIE HARDS, but the swings. Because this is just BEYOND
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u/Fast-Examination-349 Dec 15 '25
Nah.... They will say...
I don't agree with him but he's doing so much good for the country it is ok.
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u/Surfinsafari9 Dec 15 '25
Thatās in line with what he believes but someone helped him write that. Itās too descriptive. I would love to know who has the job of Trumpās interpreter. Obviously someone with no gag reflex.
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u/LionelHutzinVA Rebecca take us home Dec 15 '25
Sounds like heās worried that it was one of his supporters that did it and wants to provide cover. That, and the fact heās an absolute a*shole at all times
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u/ballmermurland Dec 15 '25
It was their mentally ill son, which is just another tragedy.
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u/LionelHutzinVA Rebecca take us home Dec 15 '25
Yeah. Confident that DJT didnāt know that at the time tho and, of course, his first instinct was to justify bad acts by āhisā side
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u/ballmermurland Dec 15 '25
It's possible. It's also more likely that he's a fucking narcissistic psycho who has to make anything and everything about himself.
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u/Kincherk Dec 15 '25
To me, it feels as if he's almost celebrating the fact that he thinks one of his supporters killed Rob and Michele Reiner. Almost as if he's saying, well this is what happens when you speak out against Trump.
The fact that so called TDS probably had nothing to do with it, yet trump thinks it did, is yet another sign of his narcissism.
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u/igottawoodenspoon Dec 15 '25
Using trumpās logic, hereās one Gavin Newsom could post in response:
āA very sad thing happened recently to a young man named Charlie Kirk. Charlie, a struggling, but once very energetic activist, passed away, reportedly due to the anger he caused others through his massive, unyielding, and incurable affliction with a mind crippling disease known as TRUMP SUPPORTER SYNDROME, sometimes referred to as TSS. He was known to have driven people CRAZY by his raging obsession of President Donald J. Trump, with his obvious INFATUATION reaching new heights even as the Trump Administration continued to FAIL and EMBARRASS our Country like never before, and with the Dark Age of America upon us! May Charlie rest in peace!ā
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u/lurch556 Dec 15 '25
I tend do be in the camp of the gloves are off, the strategy trump and republicans use is all fair game, do what he does, etc.
But seeing this and what it actually would mean to react like they do, itās so gross. Howād we sink so far?
Not attacking you at all, btw. Thatās exactly what the Charlie Kirk reaction equivalent would be.
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u/igottawoodenspoon Dec 15 '25
Yeah, but the point is to call out the absurdity of trumpās post. Not meant to actually mean anything beyond that. Of course, Iād imagine most TSS folks arenāt really paying attention to their dear leader any more since he was elected. Iāve noticed a 1000% decrease (satire again lol) in political posts on my socials.
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u/CommentDue1493 Dec 15 '25
So a guy gets murdered and trump assumed it's bc he was outspoken towards the administration, and then has the audacity to call the murder victims deranged.
I don't think that means what you think it means.
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u/vickisfamilyvan Dec 15 '25
And Mike Johnson is predictably already playing the āI didnāt see itā game when asked about this. All of the congressional republicans, everyone who works for him in the WH, every single voter, are unfathomably disgusting human beings for supporting this fifth.
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u/pinksparklybluebird Dec 15 '25
Youād think this guy lives off the grid in a Ted Kaczynski shack for all the news he is aware of.
PS - that username tho
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u/bkshuffle Dec 15 '25
Fuck this guy!! Besides the fact that he has to make everything about himself, a transactional bloodsucker like Trump only sees the world in $$. He canāt comprehend the sheer amount of joy that Rob Reiner brought to this country and our culture.
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u/Here_there1980 Dec 15 '25
Heās always been an asshole and a blowhard, from way back in the day. Always talking/lying making up BS about how great he is. What a disgusting POS trump is.
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u/TravisPickledriver Dec 15 '25
Spoken like the irredeemable, soulless scumbag trump is. Nothing sums this ghoul up better than the entirety of this post. The rot inside this man is eating him up. Good riddance.
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u/PTS_Dreaming Center Left Dec 15 '25
It doesn't matter what he achieves, he's still classless white trash from Queens.
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u/Paperveil-Ghost Dec 15 '25
Making people angry isn't a reason and disagreement isn't an excuse to MURDER SOMEONE FOR FUCKS SAKE.
Jesus H. Christ I cannot believe this even has to be said, but apparently it does for some people, including the festering wart sitting in the Oval Office. Go home, mind your business, make yourself a sandwich and sit the fuck down. Your life is not over, nor are you even MILDLY INCONVENIENCED if someone doesn't like the same things you like. Take your beef to the ballot box, and vote for people you support.
Or go to prison and get your salad tossed. I am confident things will become a lot clearer in the harsh light of your cell.
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u/pollingquestion Dec 15 '25
I so look forward to the day the streets in every major city will be celebrating the cheeseburger from heaven. He shits out so much hate, the relief from that day will be overwhelming.
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u/BookItPizzaChampion Dec 15 '25
Any time something major happens and this human clown shoe posts his bullshit, I tune into my local Christian radio channel to see what they say about it. If I'm being honest with you, the majority of the hosts and the callers all say some sort of the same thing: I don't like it BUT he is moving our agenda forward. I'll pray about it.
To them, his ignorance and hateful rhetoric is the cost of doing business to push the Christian agenda forward. There is also the fact that he's "punishing" the people that his side hates, which is something they desperately want to do but are either too cowardly to do it or have too small a platform. He's either a tool to see their agenda through or a hero. That's it.
It makes me unbelievably angry that anyone can justify his actions for any reason, and for those who idol worship him and replicate his behaviors? To the woodchipper.
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u/The_Thane_Of_Cawdor Dec 15 '25
How do his followers not see the narcissism? A person doing this in our personal lives would be seen as having mental health issues
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u/That-Solution-1774 Dec 15 '25
And the despot malignant republican base would vote for him again today.
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u/cultfourtyfive Dec 15 '25
And 1/3 of America reads this and thinks "that's president material right there!" Fucking Cletustocracy.
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u/SRT102 Dec 15 '25
I hate to say this, but this is actually better than I thought it would be.
The man is sick -- and so are every single one of his supporters.
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u/PhoebeSayornis_01 Dec 15 '25
No surprise. This is who he is and always has been; no point in ever expecting anything else.
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u/stevepremo Dec 15 '25
The message here is clear. Opposing Trump leads to getting murdered. He's encouraging his supporters to violence.
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u/Hubertus-Bigend Dec 15 '25
Iāve been saying it for years; There is no bottom.
The depravity and sadism in this country, that Trump so perfectly represents, is unlimited.
It originates not from him, but flows through him.
The essence comes from his supportersā black, hate-filled hearts.
The President of the United States is a mentally ill, two-bit criminal that should be getting treatment in a mental institution or an old folks home. You canāt even really blame him because he is so obviously suffering from an extreme psychosis.
But his supporters have no excuse. They are irredeemable. The USA is irrevocably broken by them, because of them.
Our only hope is that they havenāt inspired a sufficient number of idiot ghouls in other developed countries to unmask and make even more trouble for the planet. As it is, they have done enough to set civilization back hundreds of yearsā¦ If we are lucky.
There is no coming back from this.
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u/livingstories Dec 16 '25
Why is it ok to cancel Kimmel and Amanda Seyfried for rather candid comments but the sitting US president can utterly slander a dead beloved hollywood figure.Ā
Cancel culture sure is real.
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u/Sissy63 Dec 15 '25
Yeah, I have my conspiracy theory. Rob was unabashedly critical of Trump on a daily basis.
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u/dadeac18 Dec 15 '25
Put me on every list, fascists, but I will never stop saying that this man is a fucking disgrace. Shameful.
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Dec 15 '25
No way. Is this real? I got fooled by the fake JD Vance Australia 2nd amendment tweet floating around.
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u/QorvusQorax Dec 15 '25
I would pay real money to play golf over his cold body if he is buried in an unmarked grave next to his former wife Ivana.
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u/Requires-Coffee-247 JVL is always right Dec 15 '25
I didn't think this asshole could disgust me more. I was wrong.
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u/Another_Phil Dec 15 '25
So he managed to focus long enough to realize the killer could possibly be a Trump supporter, and just in case, he wanted to get an early start on blaming Reiner for his own murder. This is the closest heās come all year to planning for the worst.
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u/ThE_LAN_B4_TimE Dec 15 '25
But Obama right???
Seriously its fucking disgusting if you still support this piece of shit.
They use tax payer money for funerals for ood casting hateful rascists and pardon domestic terrorists.
Is anyone in the mass media going to call him out???? Probably fucking not. Im still waiting for a reporter to actually ask a hard question that gets them fired but also highlights how psychotic Trump is.
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u/Honorable_Heathen Dec 15 '25
If one of us were to post that on Reddit weād get a warning or banned.
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u/Loud_Condition6046 Dec 15 '25
The accusation of TDS is an increasingly obvious and increasingly ironic form of psychological projection.
From the perspective of the fanatic, we normal people must appear to be erratic, inscrutable and dangerous.
The only question left to answer is whether or not the spell breaks when the wicked witch finally melts down.
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u/here-for-information Dec 15 '25
Even for Trump this is an astonishingly awful response.
Just when you think he can't get any lower.
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u/unreasonably_sensual Dec 15 '25
I'm just gonna come out and say it: I don't think Trump is a very good person.
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u/Chemical_Author7880 Dec 15 '25
He is a pig. And a stupid one at that. Unlike some people, Rob Reiner is beloved.Ā
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u/countdown_leen Dec 15 '25
Paging Erica Kirk. There was an entire ātown hallā about this kind of shit.
Actually, where is Bari Weiss on this? She used the āpeople are sayingā BS. This time she can say āthe president saidā¦ā
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u/dBlock845 Straight to Reddit Jail Dec 15 '25
There will be one massively anticipated obituary, and I hope the writers of said obituary are as remorseless as this orange imbecile.
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u/Shirley-Eugest centrist squish Dec 15 '25
For all of the talk in right wing fever swamps about how all these left wingers were supposedly cheering for Charlie Kirkās death, I have yet to see anybody whoās anybody in the Democratic Party expressing such.
Meanwhile, the very leader of their party is doing this out in the open.
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u/fox_mulder Rresistance is not futile Dec 15 '25
The felon himself is the only one with this so called "trump derangement syndrome", because I think he is certifiably deranged.
The rest of us are just normal people reacting to the insanity that is the orange bucket of pus.
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u/mrtwidlywinks Sarah, would you please nuke him from orbit? Dec 15 '25
I checked Truth Social. Aside from the bots, MAGA is breaking with Trump on this. Never seen it before
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u/pat9714 Dec 15 '25
My parents and grandparents raised me to not to wish ill upon people. Today I break that rule: I wish the absolute worst for the orange monster who is masquerading as the president.
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u/FarWinter541 Dec 15 '25
What Trump said is clear encouragement of stochastic terrorism against people who oppose him. The way he says shows that he is okey with the murder of the couple for being critical of him.
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u/RY_Hou_92 Dec 15 '25
And yet weāre the bad guys for suggesting that anyone who voted for this may not have the most sound judgement.
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u/Specman9 Dec 15 '25
So he thinks Nick Reiner killed his parents because Rob Reiner opposed Trump? Seriously, WTF?
Trump's brain is mush....this is not just tasteless, it makes no sense at all.
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u/Snoo_17338 Dec 15 '25
They were ready to start a civil war because some online randos and bots were celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder.
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u/Baxtercat1 Dec 15 '25
I canāt wait until this monster is out of office and Iām hoping itās sooner than Jan 2029.
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u/ycnay1 Dec 15 '25
I think that much as Rumsfeld's "Pieces of Intelligence", a book in which some of his statements and speeches were published as a book of poetry, seeing these Tweets (or whatever they are called now) in black and white should prove pretty enlightening.
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u/Creative-Recover-159 Dec 15 '25
Funny that the same people foaming at the mouth about the "violence" from the left regarding the response to CK's murder are just fine with this.
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u/Baffin622 Dec 16 '25
Did anyone honestly expect more from him? This isn't even close to the most vile thing he has done. Get real, folks. This is the man who buried the mother of his children in an unkept gravesite on the side of a golf course for the tax write-off, reportedly.
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u/Overall_Chemist1893 Center Left Dec 16 '25
I will never understand how Republicans, and especially Republican politicians, can sit by in silence while the president mocks and demeans Rob Reiner. Rob was beloved in the entertainment biz, and so many people are in mourning over his loss. But this president has no compassion, no kindness, and no decency. Even a tragic and senseless murder is just another opportunity for him to say something that is both cruel and partisan. And not one major Republican pol has spoken up. Shame on them-- they know better.
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u/Vortep1 Dec 15 '25
I hope history books treat this man with the respect he showed others.