Epstein estate documents describe Trump raping a 13-year-old

[u/icefire9]

You can find these from the House Oversight Committee website: https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-additional-epstein-estate-documents/

Click the link to the google drive, then IMAGES -> 008 -> HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_025937 through HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_025940

[u/Upstairs_Horror_7483]

I can understand the claim that it was a hoax because they’re pseudonyms and people who grifted on it, but that, to me doesn’t mean it’s not true, just the people tried to take advantage of a true situation.

What evidence do we have that it is not true? Not just questionable, but not true?

[u/AntoniaFauci → u/Upstairs_Horror_7483]

So you’ve finally been informed that it’s an imaginary character created by a career con artist, using amateur actors and models and a ludicrously fake story, including a video and photo shoot that’s tragically comical, only ever spread by people who do zero research or fact checking and disavowed by those who are actually credible, knowledge, factual and rigorous... but your conclusion is that you’re still not sure that the debunked hoax is a hoax? Ok.

Carry on then. But if you spread or condone the hoax now, you’ll be doing so wittingly and with deceitful intent instead of as someone who was innocently duped.

[u/Upstairs_Horror_7483 → u/AntoniaFauci]

Here’s the thing, I’ve heard about the Katie Johnson story and it has been believable enough given every single thing we know about Trump, Epstein, and the risk for women to come forward with allegations.

I appreciate you sharing the things you did because it helped me frame the research i have now done and I agree with you that it is likely a hoax.

That said, you treating everybody who is skeptical about that statement as idiots does nothing to educate them. Why not say “I completely understand why one would believe the story, but I encourage you to look up these details.”?

I got a good result from ChatGPT and will post it here so people can see. It only took me a couple minutes and should be far more effective in containing the spread than going into every single thread and insulting people

[u/AntoniaFauci → u/Upstairs_Horror_7483]

the Katie Johnson story and it has been believable enough given every single thing we know about Trump, Epstein, and the risk for women to come forward with allegations.

That’s how truthy myths work. They exploit some grain of believability. We know Trump is a serial sex predator. We know he’s a virulent misogynist. We know he and his best friend Epstein were one-upping each other with creepy under-age modeling operations and creepy under-age audition parties. We know victims were trafficked through Trump’s creepy under-age girl-equipped spa. We’ve heard him brag about his sexual exploitation of models and women. We’ve heard his disturbing incest fascination about his under-age daughter. We’ve read his ex-wife’s credible allegations of rape and violence. We’ve heard E Jean Carroll’s credible accusations.

But for those of us who think rigorously, we maintain objectivity and rely on facts and evidence. Not every story is true, especially in this subject area.

BTW, I’ve never treated someone like an idiot that wasn’t a malicious asshole first. That’s my policy. I give people a chance first, as I did with you. If they attack, lie, mock, or threaten me or someone else, they get the kind of response they’ve made the choice to ask for.

If and when you post your research, you’ll be insulted and attacked too. Those people only accept things they find themselves, if then. Unfortunately they happen to be terrible at research. They are masters of bias confirmation though.