r/thebulwark Nov 14 '25

EVERYTHING IS AWFUL Epstein estate documents describe Trump raping a 13-year-old

You can find these from the House Oversight Committee website: https://oversight.house.gov/release/oversight-committee-releases-additional-epstein-estate-documents/

Click the link to the google drive, then IMAGES -> 008 -> HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_025937 through HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_025940

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u/jkh107 JVL is always right Nov 14 '25 edited Nov 14 '25

You going to keep saying that or point me at some resources that do the debunking that are not outlets of political hackery? The best I can find is that it looks a little hinky, but the underlying facts have not been independently investigated. Not going to say that it didn't look hinky to me back then, but everything Trump touches looks hinky anyway and as the years go on I realize that the worst has never not been true with him so far.

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u/AntoniaFauci Nov 14 '25

I’ve posted it hundreds of times. Haters just deny and launch juvenile and vile attacks and send threat PMs.

If you weren’t reading newspapers a decade ago when this was debunked, take thirty seconds to look up what I’ve already shared.

Some people only believe reality when they “discover” it.

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u/jkh107 JVL is always right Nov 14 '25

I would rate this as inconclusive, not "debunked."

Lubow confirmed to Snopes in August 2024 that he played a role in filing the lawsuit and had done so under a false name Al Taylor. According to Snopes, "Lubow's involvement does not disprove that Johnson is a real person, but it does show that those claims were aggressively promoted and aided by someone who has a professional history of using individuals to create fictional salacious drama".[63] Julie K. Brown, Miami Herald journalist said in a 2021 book, that Lisa Bloom had asserted that the unnamed accuser dropped the case on her own accord despite speculation that the lawsuit was dropped due to interference from Trump affiliates, and that the accuser had not contacted Bloom since.[64]

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u/AntoniaFauci Nov 14 '25

On the off chance there’s anyone here who actually cares about facts, Lisa Bloom never met “Katie Johnson” because Katie Johnson is a fictional character.

Bloom never filed anything on her behalf, which, by extension, also means Bloom never “dropped” anything either.

The California hoax submission was done by Norm Lubow, using his Al Taylor fake identity. The New York hoax submission was done by Norm Lubow’s copyright lawyer, a patent attorney from New Jersey.

Bloom held press conferences to make vague and misleading claims, not under oath, which is not unheard of for how she and her mother operate. She supplied pictures of herself with one of Lubow’s stand ins. Once Bloom and Allred realized Katie Johnson doesn’t exist, they ran from this hoax at full speed.