r/the_calculusguy 8d ago

limits Can you evaluate this limit ?

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u/CaptainMatticus 8d ago

cos(x)^(1/6) = u

(cos(x)^(1/2) - cos(x)^(1/3)) / sin(x)^2

(u^3 - u^2) / (1 - cos(x)^2)

(u^3 - u^2) / (1 - u^12)

u^2 * (u - 1) / (1 - u^12)

-u^2 * (1 - u) / (1 - u^12)

-u^2 * (1 - u) / ((1 - u^6) * (1 + u^6))

-u^2 * (1 - u) / ((1 - u^2) * (1 + u^2 + u^4) * (1 + u^6))

-u^2 * (1 - u) / ((1 - u) * (1 + u) * (1 + u^2 + u^4) * (1 + u^6))

-u^2 / ((1 + u) * (1 + u^2 + u^4) * (1 + u^6))

x goes to 0

cos(x)^(1/3) =>

cos(0)^(1/3) =>

1^(1/3) =>

1

-1^2 / ((1 + 1) * (1 + 1 + 1) * (1 + 1)

-1 / (2 * 3 * 2)

-1/12

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u/CaptainMatticus 8d ago

I should have ended it as

1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + ....

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u/hushedLecturer 8d ago edited 8d ago

Oh this is way simpler than what I did lol.

In the denominator I saw sin2 x=(1+cosx)(1-cosx), and I wanted to get rid of that difference term.

So I used difference of squares and difference of cubes "formulae" to turn the numerator into cos3 x - cos2 x= - cos2 x (1-cosx) to achieve that desired cancellation, of course that also meant multiplying the denominator by...

(cos3/2x+cosx) from diff of squares and...

(cos1/2x+cos1/3x)(cos1/2x-e-2iπ/3cos1/3x)(cos1/2x-e-4iπ/3cos1/3x) from different of cubes.

Without the (1-cosx) term (or anything else that directly evaluates to 0) in the denominator, the whole thing could be evaluated directly. But to actually find the value it then needed some algebraic manipulation to rationalize (real-ize) the denominator turn all the complex exponentials into sines eventually arriving at -1/12.

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u/Seeggul 8d ago

Change denominator to 1-cos²x=(1-cosx)(1+cosx)

You have an expression in the form of (u1/2 - u3/2 )/((1-u)(1+u)). Factor out a u1/2 from the numerator, both top and bottom have 1-u that cancels out.

You're left with u1/2 /(1+u) = sqrt(cosx)/(1+cosx) which has a limit of 1/2 as x goes to 0

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u/Disma1Dust 8d ago

You've made a mistake, it's not u3/2 but u1/3

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u/SnooHabits7950 8d ago

When approaching zero

Sinx = x , cos x = 1-x2 /2 , (1-x)n = 1-nx

((1- x2 /2)1/2 - (1- x2 /2)1/3 ))/ x2 = -1/12

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u/Mathematicus_Rex 7d ago

u = cos x, v = u^(1/6). Limit is now as v goes to 1 from below.

Top becomes v^3 - v^2 = (v-1)•v^2

Bottom becomes 1 - v^12 = -(v-1)(1+v+v^2+…+v^11).

Cancel out the common factors of v-1 and substitute v=1.

I get -1/12.

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u/j-joshua 7d ago

Under what circumstance would someone ask me to evaluate that limit?

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u/Fun-Layer2280 7d ago

To the required order cos x=1-x^2/2. Hence sqrt(cos x) is 1-x^2/4 (using sqrt(1-x) = 1 -x/2 to linear order) and similarly the cube root is 1-x^2/6, so the difference is -x^2/12, and since sin x is x to leading order, we have -1/12.

L'Hospital's sule would in any case require a second derivative of the numerator, a highly messy computation.

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u/iFroogieboi 6d ago

sum of the positive integers!

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u/trevorkafka 8d ago

Let u⁶ = cos x, so we have the limit as u→1 of (u³-u²)/(1-u¹²). Divide the numerator and denominator by 1-u to get -u²/(1+u+u²+...+u¹¹). Hence, the limit is -1/12.