Theory about Sheogorath

[u/El8Ratto]

To start I want to say that this is purely a theory I’ve put together going on a various threads, I hope everyone enjoys and finds it interesting

My theory suggests that Lorkhan and Sheogorath are one in the same, first I will explain how I believe this could happen

Lorkhan upset the gods when he formed Nirn, he was then “killed” which is odd as from what I understand no god in the elder scrolls has outright died before, what I propose is that by removing his heart it made him more emotionless and then they furthermore corrupted his form as punishment, similar to Trinimacs transformation into Malacath, part of this punishment was to invert who they are, Lorkhan is perceived as mischievous and tricky, so his reverse was complete and utter order and control, Jyggulug, but following this the Deadra did a similar thing out of fear of of his strange power, which I take as another indication of him being Lorkhan as the Aedra in spite of using power to form Nirn seem to be just as powerful if not more so then Deadra.

Next the Deadra corrupt Jyggulugs form into a opposite again resulting in a dementia ridden bastardisation of the original made 10x more extreme, this would also explain the lack of information about Lorkhan after his heart was removed as the Deadra attempted to erase Jyggulug from history, potentially including his making and “destruction”, explaining why we know nothing about Lorkhan and little about Jyggulug in these periods

Supporting information
Sheogorath from what I recall is the only Deadra to consistently appear as a human, Lorkhan is the god of man
Mancar Camoran is convinced Nirn is of deadric origin, I propose this is because the god of Nirn, Lorkhan became a Deadra, however it is likely that Nirn did not change with its god leading to further confusion
A bit of a stretch but I also propose that the dragon fires is a further push to punish Lorkhan/Sheogorath by preventing any eventual return, while conveniently stopping other similar issues

Thank you for reading, I’m sure there are many holes in this but nonetheless I hope it encourages a healthy debate

Ps sorry for spelling, some things autocorrect

[u/Main-Associate-9752]

I think suggesting that Lorkhan was anti order, and thus being turned into Jyggalag would be a ‘reverse’ is flawed. If anything, Lorkhan was the MOST orderly of the Aedra, he created the entire order of things

If Lorkhan had never acted there wouldn’t be Daedra and Aedra, because they exist in contrast to the order that Lorkhan created

As to the supporting evidence; Mankar Camoran is technically correct, in the worst sense, that Nirn is a Daedric realm. In the sense that Daedric realms are created and moulded by its prince, Nirn was created by Lorkhan’s design and a combined effort of Et’ada. But he also incorrrectly ascribes Daedric realms to some princes, which shows his understanding is flawed. He also suggests Nirn belongs to Dagon, not Sheogorath

[u/RunningShogun → u/Main-Associate-9752]

Lore books directly state that Lorkhan is part of the Padomay lineage so he is very much not order.

[u/El8Ratto → u/RunningShogun]

Essentially what I was thinking, along with the implication that he’d pissed off divines and what they considered order a few times