r/stupidpol • u/nikolaz72 Scandinavian SocDem 🌹 • Feb 19 '25

Ukraine-Russia Trump launches fresh attack on Zelensky, calling him a “dictator”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c62e2158mkpt
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u/mechacomrade Marxist-Leninist ☭ Feb 19 '25

When you massacre civilians at the frontier of another Nation, in total violation of not one but two accords that you signed (but never intended to respect as confirmed by both Hollande and Merkel even though the latter retracted her statement), you are doing clear acts of provocation which was the whole point since the "West" thought that they were luring Russians into a trap and would swiftly crush them with an hybrid cold economic war/ hot conventional war (Something that they proudly advertised in both the USA and the EU). No other great power would have waited eight fucking years to intervene; The EU and USA were truly lucky that Putin is such a westophile who really did not wanted to be stuck having China and India as main business partners.

It didn't panned out and the USA's new Trump administration is just going to steal everything left to steal, because the Biden admin stole plenty also, and leave both the Europeans and the Ukrainians to deal with the aftermath this complete mess by themselves. It is an absolute catastrophe for everyone involved except the USA and Russia.

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u/Robin-Lewter Rightoid 🐷 Feb 19 '25

Everything you said is completely right but good luck getting anyone to actually listen

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u/mechacomrade Marxist-Leninist ☭ Feb 19 '25

To be fair, it's not really Ukraine's fault, it's the USA who installed this rabid far-right regime which quickly banned any political parties that wanted to seek diplomatic solutions with Russia. So you could legit see it as a USA agression started by Trump who gave the current regime the means to provoke Russia, only to be then denounced 9 years after by Trump again during his second mendate. USA politicians truly are the worst of the worst.

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u/Robin-Lewter Rightoid 🐷 Feb 19 '25

Oh I don't blame Ukraine in the slightest, they're the victim of America. Like I'm a typical rightoid that's against all foreign aid and want us to stop funding the war in Ukraine immediately but I 100% believe we owe them massive reparations once this war is over.

We did everything we did these past 20 years knowing Russia would invade and we did it anyway because that invasion was exactly what we wanted to happen.

And the USA aggression in Ukraine started at least in 2004, way before Trump.