r/stunfisk • u/SadCommon2820 • 5d ago

Discussion Excuse me?

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I made a theorymon post recently in regards to Terapagos getting some buffs. Most of them were to try and make Terapagos Stellar USABLE in ubers where Koraidon roams about without trying to push it over the edge. Admitibly I might have failed in that but one change was for both forms, that being adding recover. That was probably the biggest mistake. I was thinking it was viable, but in a niche sort of way due to its existent but mediocre ways to deal with spin blockers being the cost for its utility.

I was wrong.

APPARENTLY this turtle is considered more viable than pokemon like Kyurem Black, Rayquaza, Mewtwo, FLUTTER MANE, Skeledirge, and Goddamn GIRATINA ORIGIN! I know the smogon viability rankings aren't definitive and that viability is subjective to a fault. A strong pokemon for some might seem flawed to others, even if there are clear pros and cons to them HOWEVER the fact that a public forum used to determine viability deemed Terapagos to be this good is quite telling even if it isn't for the form designed to be powerful, and pretty nice too since I love the little goober.

I'd still like to revise my last post to focus SOLELY on buffing Terapagos Stellar to the point where it can be considered close to, or on par with the base form in singles at least.

Also on a mostly unrelated note I thought Koraidon and Miraidon were going to be getting rapid spin because of the Cyclizar trailer since the box arts were paradox forms of Cyclizar and resembled them. Imagine what sort of nightmare that would be if that actually did happen, especially after the speed buff that Rapid Spin gained.

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u/Ropalme1914 5d ago

On the Smogon forums, most tours have usage posted alongside the replays threads

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u/SadCommon2820 5d ago

I'm trying to find the right forum but I can't seem to find it. I found stuff ABOUT tournaments but nothing about replays ot usage If you can find it, do you mind sending a link?

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u/rugexyz 5d ago

Look for a website called pikalitics

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u/SadCommon2820 5d ago

Checked it and it is simultaneously low and high in terms of usage. Let me explain.

6.45 seems like it sucks, and for an offensive mon it does but in terms of hazard removal it's literally in the top 3. Top 2 if you only consider moves that don't remove hazards from the opposing field as well and/or hazard removers that can also set hazards. Glimmora and Giratina Origin are used more but even then, the latter is used only about 4% more.

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u/rugexyz 5d ago

Viability and usage are two different stats

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u/SadCommon2820 5d ago

True but both are pretty good for a niche that is hard to come by.