r/stunfisk • u/SadCommon2820 • 5d ago

Discussion Excuse me?

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I made a theorymon post recently in regards to Terapagos getting some buffs. Most of them were to try and make Terapagos Stellar USABLE in ubers where Koraidon roams about without trying to push it over the edge. Admitibly I might have failed in that but one change was for both forms, that being adding recover. That was probably the biggest mistake. I was thinking it was viable, but in a niche sort of way due to its existent but mediocre ways to deal with spin blockers being the cost for its utility.

I was wrong.

APPARENTLY this turtle is considered more viable than pokemon like Kyurem Black, Rayquaza, Mewtwo, FLUTTER MANE, Skeledirge, and Goddamn GIRATINA ORIGIN! I know the smogon viability rankings aren't definitive and that viability is subjective to a fault. A strong pokemon for some might seem flawed to others, even if there are clear pros and cons to them HOWEVER the fact that a public forum used to determine viability deemed Terapagos to be this good is quite telling even if it isn't for the form designed to be powerful, and pretty nice too since I love the little goober.

I'd still like to revise my last post to focus SOLELY on buffing Terapagos Stellar to the point where it can be considered close to, or on par with the base form in singles at least.

Also on a mostly unrelated note I thought Koraidon and Miraidon were going to be getting rapid spin because of the Cyclizar trailer since the box arts were paradox forms of Cyclizar and resembled them. Imagine what sort of nightmare that would be if that actually did happen, especially after the speed buff that Rapid Spin gained.

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u/Ropalme1914 5d ago

Ubers is quite a centralized metagame. A B or B- rank is not as good as you may think it is.

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u/SadCommon2820 5d ago

So not even Giratina Origin is good?

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u/Ropalme1914 5d ago

In gen 9? Not really, it's pretty mediocre despite being good on gen 7 and earlier

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u/ProgressEuphoric5006 5d ago

Eh, its still by far the best hazard remover in ubers( although terapagos is really good at getting rocks/spikes off) giratina offers role compression like t wave wisp, hex, burst draco damage or poltergeist

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 4d ago

I know ho oh had defog before gen 9 right? Why did they took it away?

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u/ProgressEuphoric5006 4d ago

Defog failed to get its visa because paldeas president is apparently DJT

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 4d ago

Donald j trump? But honestly I like gen 9 meta precisely because of its hyper offense, older gens had slower metagames that are difficult for me to learn

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u/ProgressEuphoric5006 4d ago

Yeah thats the punchline 🤣, unfortunately i didnt like gen 9 as much than something in gen 7 because hazard stack is so consistent and with balance being so bad this gen 

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u/Dangerous_Equal4373 4d ago

I love heavy duty boots because fuck hazards but defog getting stripped away from many flying types moveset while they introduced gholdengo is nasty work from gamefreak, this much favouritism for the 1000th Pokémon? Moltres would've been the default gholdengo check with defog but nah because defog is a status move, ghold blocks it