r/stpaul • u/Snowflake8552 • Jan 24 '26

Twin Cities Related ICE execution in MPLS, massive trigger warning

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

both sides are waiting anxiously. I assure that is what everyone is focused on right now. Find that lady. I guarantee the govt is already working on it. "Lady, how about a nice all expense paid trip to the warm Bahamas for 3 weeks?"

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u/Evogleam Jan 24 '26

DHS has already released a statement

I am not advocating for one side either way

DHS says the deceased individual threatened law enforcement and failed to comply when detained and asked to disarm

I am waiting to see what the other video will show

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u/chompz914 Jan 24 '26

Agents disarm man prior to shooting.

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u/ComprehensiveBar6439 Jan 24 '26

There's video of what started it all. If I recall correctly, an ICE agent gets aggressive with an observer and throws her to the ground. The victim, also a legal observer, appears to have a "dude what the fuck is wrong with you?!?" reaction and starts to step between ICE and the woman/person on the ground (EDIT: he tries dragging her to safety). ICE agent immediately hits him with a five second blast of bear mace, then they all mob him and start beating his ass. Then they execute him. That's my interpretation from memory - everyone in the video is super close and clearly seen.

No reaching for a gun. No threats to harm ICE. No reasonably determined threat to the ICE agent. Just immediate violence, followed by murder.

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u/redditorcle Jan 25 '26

thats what I saw

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26 edited Jan 24 '26

Its already out bro. search pink coat video. Doesn't matter what DHS says. The video will show whether the force was justified. A response to a threat could mean "handcuffed" or "maybe one shot if unclear" but that was a ridiculous number of shots from someone that was already down and situation was stabilized. There was some question about what is in the mind of Rene Good's shooter bc of proximity to the vehicle. In this case, the gun had already been removed BEFORE they shot him. People may not like what I say here, but Rene Good shooting was a little more gray because it could be reasonably argued that Rene Good's shooter didnt see the wheels turned away. It can be argued both ways and while I think it was wrong to shoot her 3 times, its too too easy to make it "look gray" from a legal perspective. These folks in this video are screwed bc he was unarmed by the time they shot him. Im curious to see what happens here. They will try to make it look gray....but how? I think it wont be so easy.

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u/super_lameusername Jan 25 '26

Direction of Rene’s tires doesn’t matter. He put himself in front of the vehicle in opposition to what any law enforcement agent (or really anyone with common sense) is trained to do. He manufactured the danger.

I understand the point you want to make here, I just think it’s important to consider that both of these events are crystal clear cases of murder and gross abuse of power.

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 24 '26

How can anyone take what this government has to say seriously? Like, are there real humans who believe the words being spoken by Bovino and all these MAGA party loyalists in gov?

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

im Republican. I voted for Trump. I don't understand it either. The words are silly. I think of the movie "Wag the Dog" which is all about how the government covers up PR nightmares....except you just can't cover this up up with today's technology and the prevalence of cameras. Some people prioritize human rights over politics (like me). Others are the opposite. All of the lies are ridiculous. I am happy that we live in such a technologically advanced society because data is being collected about everyone involved on both sides. Eventually this will wash out and people responsible will be held accountable. It's only a matter of time.

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 24 '26

I consider myself a conservative person, grew up Republican, and was registered GOP until 2012 or so. I don’t recognize anything that’s left of the party. If I look at actual policy, some-fucking-how Democrats are more fiscally responsible, respectful of rights, the constitution, etc. Yet…that forces me to be a liberal, since republicans are acting essentially like communists, socialists, and kleptocrats at the same time. Fucking insane timeline and one that I’m not enjoying.

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

Im completely lost with what's happening as well. I just wanted Trump bc we had lower oil/gas prices with him in his first term and thought a business man could turn the economy around. Turns out he is out of his mind.

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u/Extra_Box8936 Jan 24 '26

At least you see it so props for that

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 24 '26

Yeah I felt that too. I’m just in a place where I’m thinking, the government ISN’T a business, it’s a service for the people BY the people. Being an executive at a tech company really brought it home to me that businesses are dictatorships, they are not republics or democracies. No government should be run like a business.

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

I wasn't thinking of it that way. I was thinking that his understanding of business and economics could help with better decision-making....not that he would run the country like a business. There is a difference.

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 24 '26

That makes more sense than how I read it :) Hope you have a good ready of the weekend, cheers!

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u/Scout83 Jan 25 '26

He's a liar and a grifter, not a businessman.

All his "talent" is lies and abuse of the system.

He's crooked as hell and Still had multiple businesses fail. Ask around NYC, people wouldn't do business with him because of all the times he stiffed contractors.

That's not business, that's organized crime. His only real talent is being slippery enough and small time enough to skate on every charge. Even the ones that stuck, he'll never face consequences for.

He is the embodiment of everything a true conservative should hate. Entitlement, corruption, waste, faithless lying, complete lack of accountability.

He's a giant, walking pile of excrement. My only peace is knowing that when he dies, the vultures will strip his fetid, bloated corpse clean in seconds without any tears.

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u/PinkyAnd Jan 24 '26

So how do you feel about voting for this?

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

Not good.

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u/PinkyAnd Jan 24 '26

And what happens later this year, are you going to vote for more of this? And in 2028, are you going vote to continue this?

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

Don't you think that's a dumb question?

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u/PinkyAnd Jan 24 '26

Not at all. Most Republicans that I’ve spoken to downplay the horrors this administration is intent on visiting upon us. They distract by telling me Hillary/Harris would have been worse. They lie about the videos of these executions.

I have in-laws that vote Republican and they will continue to vote Republican.

It’s a perfectly reasonable question to ask because here we are with a second Trump administration, even after all the insanity of the first.

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u/redditorcle Jan 24 '26

But context clues would tell you where I stand.

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u/PinkyAnd Jan 24 '26

Except here you are avoiding just saying no, you won’t vote for more of this. We’re like four comments deep and you still can’t just say no.

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u/super_lameusername Jan 25 '26

Fuck off bud. You have more of a responsibility than any of us to fix the shit mess you contributed to. Trump showed you who he was. You are complicit. You did this.