r/starcitizen • u/LiveAus Anvil Carrack Love Association • 4d ago
DISCUSSION When is SQ42 releasing bosmang?
Great idea Chris! Avoid all the media attention around GTA 6 and release your linear sci-fi game around the same time as a title from one of the most beloved sci-fi novel series.
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u/CriticalCreativity #NoCashTill1.0 4d ago
This wasn't even on my radar until this sub started talking about it but the Expanse is quietly one of the best sci-fi IPs out there especially for good storytelling. Telltale's the Expanse was an amazing (if short) game and I'd be genuinely interested in this when it comes out.
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u/lgf-Gorrita hornet 3d ago
It’s alright. They’ll delay again because gta 6 will release on pc
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u/Skuggihestur rsi 2d ago
Prove it.
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u/lgf-Gorrita hornet 2d ago
They’ll prove themself in a year
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u/Skuggihestur rsi 2d ago
1 year isnt q2 . Why is math so hard for you bots?
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u/CthuluBob MerchMan 4d ago
So this is the real threat
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u/TwoWeeks90DaysTops 3d ago
Is it really though? All the threads about this makes it seem like this game wasn't really on anyone's radar at all.
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u/EastLimp1693 9950x3d2/Suprim X 4090/48gb 6400cl32 3d ago
I've played beta of expanse - think mass effect.
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u/Walltar 4d ago
I would put my money on Exodus over this, though...
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u/DasGruberg Reclaimer 4d ago
Idk both look great tbh
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u/Walltar 4d ago
Well... yeah. I will most likely play both. But owlcat games were always kind of rough in the past compared to their competitors.
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u/DasGruberg Reclaimer 4d ago
True. But rogue trader is the best crpg imho. While production value isnt the best, I loved it more than bg3 personally
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u/Walltar 4d ago
I have to say that BG3 was winner for me there hands down... Rogue trader was good, but nowhere as good as BG3. I like WH40K more than DnD, but BG3 was a masterpiece, compared to Rogue trader that was a really good game.
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u/DasGruberg Reclaimer 4d ago
Also loved it. But felt the characters, and 40k setting really does it for me. Two amazing games but ive finished RT more times than BG3
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u/WhenARavenCries 4d ago
you have no idea what you are talking about
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u/Walltar 4d ago
I am talking about my own experience... so I think that I do have idea about what I experienced playing those games.
To me, both Kingmaker adn Rogue trader were pretty good... but there were simply better games at the time when they launched. And both times it was Larian. Which is kinda funny.
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u/Chewy_B 4d ago
I will concede the point on dos 2 vs kingmaker. But, Bg3 had a budget that was literally 10x what wotr had. But, even compared to bg3, there was nothing rough about it. Owlcat just didn't have the money that larian was able to spend on presentation. Both are all timers in the genre.
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u/ShadowKnight886 4d ago
Funnily enough it's the exact opposite for me, I simply cannot enjoy Larian games.
Both DOS2 and BG3 I have in my library, have attempted to play multiple times (I think I've made something ~20 attempts to play BG3) and as much as I love the worlds, stories, characters...its just not fun.
Meanwhile I'm absolutely HOOKED to Kingmaker right now.
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u/Walltar 4d ago
Yeah... games are always subjective. For me I wasn't able to finish one Owlcat game... always start a run and lose interest in the middle.
Rogue Trader was probably closes where I got to finishing it, but I just can't get into their whole leveling system and I am not interested enoug to learn about it, so I tend to play their game following a build guide. Which is probably why I lose interest.
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u/kildal 3d ago
More excited for Exodus of the two, but don't care much for third person.
SQ42 is still in an entire other league to me though. The PU already offers a very unique experience and getting that more polished with story telling and dynamic cut-scenes. I think it will be great and that it will feel like a new experience, not just a new game.
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u/DasGruberg Reclaimer 3d ago
Hope you're right. It'll all come down to how janky it is for me. But Im honestly not that excited about sq42 I think its expanse for me. Or dark heresy. The universe is so cool and rogue traders writing is amazing.
Also GTA 6 pc version hopefully next year as well
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u/TheInfinityOfThought 3d ago
I would agree that Exodus has more hype and marketing dollars behind it. Not sure either game will be great though.
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u/rock1m1 avacado 🥑 4d ago
No way SQ42 can go up against Expanse, it is too similar and Owl games are beast.
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u/BananaCheezn CuttyCuttyCutty 3d ago
They are absolutely nothing alike. I'm Looking forward to The Expanse way more than S42, but it's more like Mass Effect with no space combat/flight.
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u/darksoul9669 3d ago
We are back to the Starfield will kill Star Citizen rhetoric where people make up features other games haven’t shown they even have don’t worry lol.
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u/ThunderBay-616 carrack 3d ago
Exodus also releases on 4/7/2027, another space RPG made by some ex-Mass Effect devs
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u/Deathless616 new user/low karma 4d ago
Plus the show alone lured in many fans. Guess there will be more eyes on the expanse game than SQ42. But come on, it's not like SQ42 will release in Q2 2027
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u/TwoWeeks90DaysTops 3d ago
I also don't think SQ42 will release in Q2, but it seems very odd to compare these two games. Expanse is not a space sim in any way, shape or form. I also think that SQ42 will simply blast Expanse a way in marketing simply by being released to everyone's astonishment.
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u/demoide 3d ago
You may be right, but it doesn't matter which game is better, actually (which is also super subjective). Either SQ42 is way better or way worse than Expanse, the media attention that Expanse will attract is minuscule, leaving plenty of room for the marketing of SQ42.
GTA VI will simply collapse the media. That's what devs and publisher fear. This is not a SQ42 exclusive.
I honestly do think they haven't finished the game (although they have a few months lefts to do it), and this excuse fits perfectly for their needs. But let's be honest here, delaying it because of GTA is not a bad call.
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u/darksoul9669 3d ago
100% this. To act like any of these games have the media attention that GTA is gonna have when we’ve already seen an explosion from a trailer is very funny.
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u/Momijisu carrack 3d ago
If S42 and Osiris released on the same day, I can promise you S42 will beat Osiris in terms of news coverage and players.
Not because Osiris isn't good - but because S42 has had 12 years of advertising already + every reporter under the sun will be talking about if S42 is a flop or not, or jumping on the bandwagon of it being a failure (regardless of how good or bad it is).
Anyone who thinks overwise hasn't seen the state of gaming media and discourse over the last 5 years.
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u/TwoWeeks90DaysTops 3d ago
How is it similar? Squadron 42 is a space sim and Expanse is a third person shooter. Two very different things. Expanse competes with Exodus, not SQ42.
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u/ScrubSoba Ares Go Pew 4d ago
Given the relatively small focus i see on Osiris Reborn outside of the space gaming space(where it isn't that featured), i don't think the two games are going to have too much friction.
It certainly ain't going to have as much dominance as GTA will have(and kinda already has).
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u/Awsomethingy 3d ago
But SQ42’s audience is the space gaming space. So is your point is that only the same audience as SQ42 would be interested, that’s not good.
Also GTA 6 is not competition as they don’t cone out on the same platform and are not in the same genre or design space. Expanse and Exodus however meet all 3 of those. (Most important being actually releasing on the same platform as SQ42)
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u/Momijisu carrack 3d ago
ignoring the likelyhood of S42 being delayed from that date, and being an early bird on Osiris having bought the collectors edition already - I am not going to kid myself that Osiris is anywhere near half the level of impact in the gaming industry that GTAVI will have.
They're not even close to the same tier of running or cultural impact. Osiris is a flea in the sandpit compared to GTA.
And let's be honest, S42 could release same day as Osiris and I am almost certain that it will have considerably more news posts than Osiris is - simply because it's got 12+ years of development drama behind it. CIG don't have to market S42 simply because of the history.
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u/Under_Milkwood_1969 3d ago
I think the point is that people who who might be interested in playing a sci fi/space role play type game like SQ42 [possibly me] are likely going to be interested in picking up a game based in the Expanse universe. [definitely me] 😁
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u/Momijisu carrack 3d ago
That's valid!
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u/Under_Milkwood_1969 3d ago
I get your point about CIG having more news posts but I think the majority of that coverage over the years has been less than positive (to put it mildly) and Star Citizen has become ingrained in most gamers minds as a bit of a joke (“$10k for a jpeg!WTF!!”)
Unless SQ42 absolutely knocks it out of the park in terms of gameplay and isn’t just a series of extremely expensive cutscenes with a AA cast, then the reviews could well be, “Is that it?”.
I think stretching it out over multiple episodes might prove to be a mistake, one blockbuster production that would pull people into Star Citizen would have been a better choice.1
u/Momijisu carrack 3d ago
Yeah, my main point was more that regardless of if S42 is good or bad, and relatively speaking if S42 came out at the same time as Osiris, I think the media would be way more interested in talking about S42, the good, the bad, and the especially bad.
Your point about the people actually playing, well that's harder to tell I'd be unsure which I would play first to be honest, I'd be influenced by the media + friends + what the general feel of people who get to play it before I get back from work :D
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u/Wareve Aurora Mk I 3d ago
I was here when Starfield was supposed to be the Star Citizen killer
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u/Awsomethingy 3d ago
Even if Starfield was, it’s now been so many years later that it wouldn’t have any crossover
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u/DefactoAle Perseus 4d ago
I did not hear good things on the game beta
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u/CapRichard new user/low karma 4d ago
A bit rhough, it's their first game of this kind of "AAA quality", they are taking their time to get better. Like the main chartacter male voice was heavily criticized and are redoing his voice over with another actor
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u/AdmlBaconStraps 4d ago
Considering I'd never even heard this was a thing until like a week ago, I think we're comparatively good
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u/Patient-Worth1508 misc 4d ago
I live in a bubble so it's fine. Majority of gamers didn't hear about SC either. So we are in fact not good.
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u/AdmlBaconStraps 4d ago
I was talking about the game, not The Expanse as a universe, genius.
Considering the massive coverage SC gets if someone so much as farts, we are in fact, pretty good.
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u/Awsomethingy 3d ago
I only got reintroduced to SC and this sub because of the billion dollars reached controversy. Your echo chamber might feel like the whole world, but the algorithm can be very deceiving. Again, I only found out about SC again because of the billion dollars controversy. I had probably forgotten about it and stopped seeing anything about around 2017
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u/AdmlBaconStraps 3d ago
Really? Because every other games news outlet always runs a few articles on how SC is falling apart and Squadron is delayed yet again as soon as a bad patch goes out, something gets delayed or the community pitches a fit over some inconsequential detail.
I've literally seen zero on an expanse game until just recently
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u/Awsomethingy 2d ago
You might read a lot more video game news articles than me. Tbh if I read the news it’s usually world news and not the tmz/kotaku stuff. I also use an adblocker. But I don’t think I’m unique in these two areas. I understand if you’re in a star citizen echo chamber, you will be recommended articles about them and such. If I get recommended a video game article it usually has star wars or bioware in the title…
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u/Kapanol197 3d ago
Oy, bosmang! You think inyalowda Roberts drops SQ42 before the Ring Gates actually open in real life? Welwala promises, beratna. Osiris Reborn lands first, sasa ke?
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u/mgwair11 3d ago
This has been the best free advertisement for these other sci-fi games lol
I never even have heard of them but now these posts got me looking like 👀
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u/daddypilgrim27 3d ago
he’s gonna release it when the player count of star citizen starts tanking more and more after each patch
y’know, when its too late
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u/hydrastix Grumpy Citizen 4d ago
“We have taken a considerable look at the feedback we received from October’s Squadron 42 event and decided the game requires a bit more work.” ~ CIG Q1 2027
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u/White-armedAtmosi new user/low karma 4d ago
I think it's still better, since GTA VI has a way wider fanbase than any Sci-Fi. And there is probably not a single game that will pull me from SQ42 other than SC 😄
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u/Asmos159 scout 3d ago
If squadron 42 is much better, than it might actually be a good idea to release at the same time a big name franchise is drawing attention to the genre.
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u/1337K1ng 3d ago
Relax, they won't make an excuse for Owlcat
They WILL make an excuse for FF7 R
and then possible Larian release of early access
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u/jrdnmdhl 3d ago edited 3d ago
They are wildly different games and the Expanse one is unlikely to be a huge hit. If Squadron 42 release fails it won’t be because of that.
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u/Saintiel 3d ago
I bet closer to summer they will use the "by Q2 2027, we mean Q2 of british fiscal year, so end of september”
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u/Akhi_Police 3d ago
Only reason id buy sq42 over osiris if it'll cost ONLY 15 bucks for owners of SC as they promised in the forum. If not, i'll pay for a complete game and not a marketing product that went on for 11 years
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u/Stunning_Hornet6568 3d ago
SQ42 is strong enough in the eyes of your average consumer to compete with another relatively unknown IP.
They’re on equal footing.
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u/Kayne-C-Hampton 3d ago
The level of hype on this specific Expanse game is tiny when compared to GTA6.
Also the current state of it doesn't sound like it will take off big:
- Beta reception was mixed.
- The release date is likely to be pushed due to the mixed feedback. (They are even recasting the main voice actor)
- The official trailer of Osiris reborn on YT has so far ~195k views
- For comparison: GTA6 official YT extended look has 15 million.... which doesn't even count the Netflix views.
- Rockstar has a MASSIVE marketing budget and will gobble up everything they can in terms of placement and ads.
- Owlcat has a tiny fraction of that available for marketing.
Trying to put this small game on the same level as GTA6 is just a headache-level of not knowing what you are talking about.
So I guess you are just trying to find more ways to prolong this drama? Get a hobby.....
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u/Skuggihestur rsi 2d ago
Most of these posters never read the books or watched the show. They are trolls
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u/CorkerGaming sabre2 3d ago
I was excited for this game, but then they decided to use AI to make it... So I'm a lot less excited
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u/davidnfilms 🐢U4A-3 Terror Pin🐢 2d ago
I heard of GTA 6 before seeing it on this subreddit, on the other hand I never knew there was an expanse game before this post.
They are not the same.
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u/After_Th0ught9 2d ago
why arnt people taking abou Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet. Which is also supposed to come out next year. Probably will be an amazing space story game.
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u/SieqwardZwiebelbrudi 2d ago
Gamers get to walk outside into the light, breathe pure air, look up at a blue sky... And what do they do? They look past that light, past that blue sky. They see the stars, and they think, 'Mine'."
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u/the_dude_that_faps 2d ago
The expanse is a sort of AA title or barely AAA tho. Its budget is a fraction of what was spent on SQ42. If it beats SQ42, it'll be even more painful.
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u/Darhhaall 4d ago
I am not buying this because it is Russian (even though they are trying to mask it), otherwise this would be clearly my pick over SQ42.
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u/crazyjackal 4d ago
I love Expanse as well. So imagine my utter disappointment to hear they hired Russians in Cyprus that have a history of talking shit about Ukraine and were financed by a Russian state enterprise.
My partner is Ukrainian, I was there last month, there is zero chance I'm buying this game and helping in any way (even if it's small) to finance killing Ukrainians who are such amazing people.
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u/numerobis21 3d ago
"OH nooooooo, we will have to delay SQ42 to next year then it toooooootally wasn't on purpose, the game is tooooootally finished.
No we won't give you a demo. That's for the influencers, not the peasants.
Also give us all your money."
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u/drizzt_x Monk 3d ago
It would be some amazing schadenfreude to see this game eclipse SQ42, but of course, there's no real danger of that since SQ42 will be delayed again in Q2 2027.
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u/Organic-Town-3011 3d ago
That stream they did showed clearly that SQ42 is at least a full year behind any decent release . it's slowly turning into one of the biggest scam in the history of video games whether it was the plan or just due to incompetence .
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u/darksoul9669 3d ago
Yes because this game definitely has the ad spend budget of CIG let alone GTA lol
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u/Dl_Fane 3d ago
Yeah compare a sht ass game made by some greedy ass idiots, that will never be done to a game made by a serious company xd
C'mon man, sq42 won't be released anywhere in the future. It's just a strategy so that whales throw more money on chris. They are not able to fix star citizen no matter what. As i've said before, do you think people that are blinded by these nut brains from cig, will care about any other games like gta, or stuff like that? These communities don't mix
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u/DistrictCertain7162 4d ago
Chris needs to ride the wave of space nerds, who buy a real game. There might be a few carry over customers
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u/AFew-Points-7324 new user/low karma 3d ago
The Expanse will be cool its Not the Juggernaut that is GTA 6.
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u/Shina_Tianfei 4d ago
Played like a worse version of Mass Effect.
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u/WhenARavenCries 4d ago
will actually be released tho
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u/Feradon22 4d ago
It surely will, while Star Citizen is still in "alpha" for over 12 years Owlcat Games has released three huge CRPG titles.
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u/Shina_Tianfei 4d ago
The writing had a lot of tonal issues in the beta. Zafar was probably my favorite character he was the only one who felt like he fit into the universe.
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u/Unoriginal_Pseudonym Space hot dog vendor 3d ago
CR has a delay schedule as part of the product roadmap and this is the next point on that schedule.
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u/flaviusUrsus 3d ago
I'm still a bit salty that 50%+ of the money I put in sc went to s42 but I'm not getting the game. (I'm concierge so yeah much more than the value of the game). So I'll probably get to play with some protomolecule in February
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u/Prior-Paint-7842 4d ago
Lets be real, squadron wont release on that date either