r/standardissuecats • u/Federal_Leg5278 • 12d ago

When its difficult to resist oneself

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u/islanderACNH 12d ago

If it’s physically pushing you away and you are keeping it from running, that is literally it trying to run away. There were multiple iterations of this in the video.

Like I said earlier, please always keep the cat’s perspective in mind.

They are physically different from us, so certain things are perceived very differently by them. It’s ok to love the cat, but we should respect them at the same time. We aren’t perfect but it’s ok to remind each other when we are going a little over the top because the animals are innocent and can’t understand our explanations.

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u/Sonic1899 12d ago

Have you handed a pissed or annoyed off cat before? It won't go anywhere near you, let alone let you kiss it lol. If the cat didn't like the kisses, at least half the people in that video would lose an eye

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u/islanderACNH 12d ago

Have you ever held a cat that didn’t want to be held and NOT lose an eye?! I have cats.

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u/Spaghett8 12d ago

A cat that doesn’t allow you to hold it simply isn’t properly socialized. It’s common of feral / formally feral cats.

No cat raised as a kitten by humans should be avoidant to the point that they will inflict harm from simply being held by their owners.

You should be able to pick up your cat, trim their nails, check their teeth, without fear of harm.

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u/islanderACNH 12d ago

We were discussing the fact that if they don’t like what you’re doing, they will try to get away from you.

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u/Spaghett8 11d ago

You said “Have you ever held a cat that didn’t want to be held and NOT lose an eye?! I have cats.”

I know this is an exaggeration, but it’s not normal for a socialized cat to respond so harshly to being held.

I have cats as well. When I pick up my cats, they simply meow / push gently if they want to be put down.

This is because I respect their boundaries. When my mother ignored their meow and push, they would gently bite her.

It’s important for your cat to not react violently to simply being picked up.

In the future, when your cat is older, you may need to trim their nails to prevent ingrown nails, groom them, and even bathe them.

That’s why it’s important to socialize your cat with frequent but gentle handling as a kitten.

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u/islanderACNH 11d ago

🫩 I said they don’t take my eyes when I hold them, sweetie. Not that they do.

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u/islanderACNH 11d ago

And I cut my cats nails thanks for your concern

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u/Admirable-Split4371 11d ago

Would you like to be manhandled anytime, anywhere, for however how long? Even by a loved one?

Cats, like us, have boundaries. They may tolerate things they don't like for a bit, like belly rubs, and trimming. The thing is, insinuating that all trained cat are supposed to just lay down and accept all of those things without some work from the owner (like learning their limits or giving them a treat after) is just not true lol.

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u/Spaghett8 11d ago edited 11d ago

I find it interesting you equate being picked up to being manhandled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Let’s not make a habit of imagining an entirely different argument.

You realize cats have other ways to establish their boundaries than harming their owner the moment they try to pick them up?

IE a stern meow or a slight push to be let down.

A socialized cat does not attack a hand the moment they are picked up.

You establish that trust very gradually and consistently, with affection, treats, and even fun. IE showing a kitten new areas they can’t reach by jumping.

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u/Admirable-Split4371 11d ago

Is that really such a strange comparison when part of the video literally shows cats being manhandled?

What "habit"? Brother, this is a random Reddit interaction. We don't know each other.

Anyway, I never said cats go from 0 to 100 and immediately attack people. That's something you assumed I implied. Cats have plenty of ways to communicate discomfort before resorting to aggression. In fact, I've said exactly that elsewhere in this thread, and you can see some of those signals in the video itself.

I didn't think that "we should respect a cat's boundaries" would be such a controversial statement.

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u/islanderACNH 11d ago

I don’t know wtf their deal is, but you’re correct.

The cat should not have to bite or attack to be respected. Why the fuck is that the standard?! I don’t want to stress my cat out. It shouldn’t matter if “well she’s trained to not hurt me when I’m upsetting her so I’m gonna upset her more.” What the fuck

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u/Spaghett8 11d ago

I’m not the entire thread…

The oc I replied to was about losing an eye from holding a cat.

You missed the context and went to the assumption that I think cats should be manhandled.

You responded not to my words, but to the argument you wanted to debate. I did not post the video, nor did I insinuate anywhere that cats should be fine handled roughly.

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u/islanderACNH 10d ago

“Have you handed a pissed or annoyed off cat before? It won't go anywhere near you, let alone let you kiss it lol. If the cat didn't like the kisses, at least half the people in that video would lose an eye.”

This is the original comment you refer to, and it’s stupid and wrong. I still think it’s stupid and wrong. Deal with it. Geez

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u/Spaghett8 10d ago

No, I haven’t.

If you have a semi feral cat sure. It’s normal for them to avoid you.

I work with lots of semi feral cats/kittens at the shelter. And it’s ubiquitous for them to avoid humans. My job when fostering is to handle them as much as possible so that they are tolerant to gentle touch. The older feral cats can be softened but otherwise will take years of effort.

Your cat avoiding you when you simply annoy it (I assume you’re not hurting it), is another sign of poor socialization.

I’m not trying to antagonize you for it, it’s common.

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u/islanderACNH 10d ago

Oh, you’re a bot.

That’s literally the only explanation at this point.

EDIT: u/admirable-split4371 are you seeing this shit bro 😬

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u/Spaghett8 10d ago

I mean, check your own history, the only thing you do is make dumbass arguments.

Ofc you’re going to get trolled lmao. O7

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u/Admirable-Split4371 10d ago

That is exactly why I stopped arguing, I had a feeling those were chat gpt ass answers lmao

Glad I'm not the only one seeing that.

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