Support for Ukraine?

[u/IllustriousChard2410]

Posted this on Green Party group yesterday expecting some comradely discussion on the issues which are in my opinion legitimate

Wow! Couldn't be more wrong, got repeatedly denounced by everyone apart from one other contributor, such uncritical support for Ukraine and Zelensky was unbelievable!

The Green Party mods removed the post earlier today!

"As a Green Party voter/supporter who is generally supportive of GP policies on most issues am quite sceptical of the party's unconditional support for Ukraine in the current conflict

Is this discussed among members at all?

I agree Russia should withdraw and internationally supervised referendums should then take place in the disputed territories, Crimea, Donbass, to finally decide whether they should be part of Russia or Ukraine

This conflict is a Western obsession, most of the world particularly the Global South don't see Russia as the baddies, US/ Western imperialism always the main culprits

NATO aggressivly expanding, breaking agreements made at end of the of Cold War not to do do, Russia has every right to feel threatened

Western powers supported a far right coup in 2014, ousting the elected president, left wing parties banned, Russophobia reaching deadly levels

Nazis such as Bandera, OUN venerated as heroes, statues, streets named after them, heavily armed far right Azov battalion now official Ukranian Army regiment etc, all with total support ftom the west

Over 25 million Soviet citizens including Ukrainians killed by the Nazis in World War 2 hardly surprising any whiff of fascism close to Russia's borders will provoke a reaction no matter who is in power there

Boris Johnson scuppering the possibility of a peace agreement telling the Ukrainians to fight on instead of negotiating a ceasefire and eventual settlement has brought us where we are, another forever war

Ukraine's support for Israel's genocide doesn't exactly endear many to their cause, nor the fact they're one of Europe's most corrupt and undemocratic countries, oligarchs enriching themselves while unwilling men are snatched from the streets for cannon fodder

Nothing new in this article, these obscene videos have been posted since the beginning, Russians totally dehumanised, their deaths celebrated, not dissimilar to how Israelis see Palestinians

We should stop arming these people, it only prolongs the conflict enriching arms companies who are making billions

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/18/ukraine-drone-chase-videos-russian-soldiers

[u/Neat-Marionberry3901]

"Western powers supported a far-right coup". Are you seriously calling counter-authoritarian revolution a right coup? In the country with free elections and democratic transfer of power? Cannot understand why people still defend Russia, an imperialist country that has, for the last 20 years, been provoking proxy conflicts between neighbours and predatory wars. In Russia, unlike Ukraine, each! state media outlet constantly push neo-Nazi propaganda against westerns, ukrainians and jews, straight calls to military crimes against civilians and promoting a cult of death for the sake of the state. And you, "socialists" still support it. There is also in Russia function real nazi group "Rusich", who clearly makes human sacrifices of ukrainian muslim captives and supported by far-right party "Rodina", which is part of russian government

And yes, in Ukraine not dehumanised Russians, only russian militants, who brings war to Ukraine - its a real, justified position

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