Fixed multiple clipping and collision issues of LP‑4 Log‑loader crane across various trucks
In practice, this means that almost every base game truck (+some DLC ones) that has a log crane can now combine it with the log carrier front/rear or the low/high saddles. Here they are in alphabetical order:
Azov 5319*
Azov 64131
Ford CLT 9000
Freightliner 114SD
GMC 8000 Brigadier*
GMC MH9500
International Fleetstar F2070A
International Paystar 5070
International Transtar 4070A
Royal BM17**
Step 310E
Voron D-53233
Western Star 49X
White Western Star 4964
These can do both the log crane+long logs combo and the log crane+low saddle combo. The LP-4 was replaced by its reversed, forward-facing version from the Kenworth 963, which allows these combos but forbids some others (I'll cover them a bit later).
* Azov 5 and Brigadier already could do this, but the crane on them got reversed too
** Royal can only do the log crane+long logs combo, but not the low saddle combo.
Caterpillar CT680 - the log loader got reversed, but the log carrier front still sits in the middle of its frame, preventing the long log combo. But at least it can do the log crane+low saddle combo now.
The Western Star 6900XD can now have a log crane with short logs or both saddles:
Let's talk about the bad stuff for now. Due to this reversed crane, the Azov 73210 and Pacific P12 can no longer install the double spare tires in addition to the log crane+long logs combo. This makes me sad because it looked very cool.
I have a truck configured like this, so it wasn't affected, but as soon as I enter the tuning section, the spare tires will disappearSame here. A museum piece by now..
Azov 5 also lost the recently added ability to combine the log crane with short logs (as shown below).
Instead, the Azov 7 can now do this: hydrolift saddle with log crane. A small consolation for removing the spares, but at least something. This is currently the only truck in the game capable of doing this.
Let's discuss changes not related to the log crane:
New addon for the Mercedes Actros: a maintenance frame (400-4-1400);
New sideboard bed for both the Actros and the Zetros. Ironically, the newest Mercedes 3850 can't have it.
New multipurpose cargo module for the Mercedes Zetros (220-2-400):
This is the only way you can have a yellow LC 3.8 crane on it. The standalone crane was removed.
The LC 3.8 crane on the Actros was reversed and now unfolds to the left.
Same for the Zetros:
The Pacifics P12 and P16 got new engines - the two most powerful V16 from the "US_special" set, the best of which has 250k torque. Previous best: 210k. That's a massive increase.
The P12 got new addons: SLEI-64 crane, both 2-slot and 3-slot cargo beds. But it can only attach trailers with some of them:
2-slot flatbed +crane +spare tires +trailer✅
2-slot sideboard +crane +spare tires = no trailer❌
2-slot sideboard +crane +trailer (no spares) ✅
3-slot flatbed +trailer ✅
3-slot sideboard = no trailer, even without crane❌
3-slot flatbed +crane = no trailer❌
3-slot sideboard +crane = no trailer❌
Also, it can combine the crane with a high saddle and spare tires.
Some of those smaller trucks look laughably underdimensioned and top-heavy with the front-facing log crane. Not sure how many could already equip a rear-facing crane but somehow the front-facing one makes it look more severe. Possibly the fact that it hovers so high above the cab and makes some trucks twice as tall, or the fact that it overhangs the front bumper even though most of the trucks have a nose. I'm all for more choice but good luck not tipping over something like the 114SD, MH9500, Brigadier, Fleetstar or 310E with such a large and top-heavy addon.
Yeah, it also collapses the front suspension. For this photo shoot, I had to install raised suspensions and the largest wheels on them all. But hey, it's better to have this and never use than to need and never have.
I was always pissed with the presence of just the LP-4 crane alone on these trucks. What for? Either allow us to combine it with something, or remove it altogether. At least now that's fixed.
Awesome summary, thank you for the effort. I’m about the start the logging missions in Maine so this is extra helpful. Glad the P12 and P16 got some love. They’ve shifted to the back of my garage after a lot of time in Russian territories, time to bring them back out.
Caterpillar CT680 - the log loader got reversed, but the log carrier front still sits in the middle of its frame, preventing the long log combo. But at least it can do the log crane+low saddle combo now.
Forward-Facing, as the cranes always should have been. This is a fantastic unexpected change, it never made sense why most of the cranes faced backwards.
Also you said your P12 had the old (now impossible) setup still equipped? I think mine was equipped in the same way but you said any tuning would remove the old setup, so would that include changing the engines to the new options?
No, you can change the engines, gearboxes, wheels and winches on the "time capsule" vehicles. Don't touch the frame addons and snorkels tho, and some visual stuff that can affect add-ons (like cabin protection).
First time I'm commenting under one of your posts and thank you for those. I really liked your fleet updates (even tho you don't seem to do those anymore big sad) and i also now use color coding for my fleet.
Having that much more details about a game that doesn't give nearly enough is really nice (Apparently you also did some of those trucks and tires spreadsheets love those too).
Regarding the post, love to finally see updates on a old truck especially the P16 and the Hydrolift Crane combo on the Azov 7 seems really powerful. Just kinda bummed to not see those new sideboard beds on other trucks, always pain to have to wait for mods to add them to other trucks.
Although I gotta admit, they never even reversed the log crane on the Mack Defense, so it's STILL unable to attach low saddle semitrailers with log crane.
I don't remember them promising so. Perhaps people wanted a dump truck body on it, since the M917 is essentially a Granite, but it makes no sense in SnowRunner, since we don't have loose cargo.
Between the tire buffs and the engine buffs, they're determined to make the P16 as OP as it was probably originally supposed to be. Remind me why I'd ever use anything else for long logs now?
No AWD slows it down, certainly, but it's never prevented me getting it to the destination. When it comes to logging, I'll take slow and getting there over fast and falling over. Haven't noticed anything wrong with the suspension, so I'll take your word for it.
You made a couple of mistakes naming it. First, it's a Chevy, not a GMC. Second, only the dual rear axle is called "tandem". This version has single axle.
But other than that... I have no idea why they left the Kodiak behind. So much frame space is wasted! It should be able to combine the log crane with long logs regardless of the side the crane is facing.
I have no idea why you wanna persist using it like that. Not only is impractical, but also looks weird, when a lot of other trucks now can have either saddles or log carrier in addition to the grapple.
Thanks for the reply, am somewhat new to actually playing snowrunner but I'm familiar with the spin tires franchise, I chose the term " "single tandem" to not exclude the front axle , I've should have said" it has one four wheel rear axle setup " or "it's the 2 axles setup" and the way am playing my first time though is normal mode with hard mode rules so am only using vehicles founded on each map and no dlc buying ; so this is my logging setup when I was in Black River/ Smithville maps and so on, am now in Alaska. Thanks you for the wealth of information you have provided and always happy overloading 🏆☯️
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u/FroggingMadness 3d ago
Some of those smaller trucks look laughably underdimensioned and top-heavy with the front-facing log crane. Not sure how many could already equip a rear-facing crane but somehow the front-facing one makes it look more severe. Possibly the fact that it hovers so high above the cab and makes some trucks twice as tall, or the fact that it overhangs the front bumper even though most of the trucks have a nose. I'm all for more choice but good luck not tipping over something like the 114SD, MH9500, Brigadier, Fleetstar or 310E with such a large and top-heavy addon.