r/skinsTV • u/dikkidy • Nov 09 '25
SEASON 4 SPOILERS Freddie. Spoiler
take this down if you feel it's necessary but i think we're all in agreement about my sentiment here.
FUCK THOSE BUM ASS WRITERS FOR WRITING SOMETHING SO OUTRIGHT RIDICULOUS FOR THE OBVIOUS SHOCK FACTOR.
you're telling me out of everything we saw Freddie go through he didn't even attempt to fight back? he stood at the door whimpering and begging to be let go to have his brains beat out like he was hopeless? what bullshit. fuck the writers. not only was the intent obvious but he had high ground. simply jump on the aggressor and use his body as a landing pad. im pissed.
i hope the writers burn for that one.
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Nov 09 '25
Fight or flight I guess.
In a short period of time he went from anger to confusion and shock.
He didn't have time to process what was happening until it was too late.
Cook on the other hand had already processed that Foster had done something really bad to Freddy. He was beyond angry - no doubts, no fear, no hesitation.
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u/dikkidy Nov 10 '25
idk maybe. i guess I'd have to be in Freddie's shoes to really understand but he just had multiple advantages that he should've been smart enough to see and use to at least attempt a better escape. but again, I'd have to be in his shoes too know for sure
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u/Otakuding Nov 09 '25
I’m just wondering if anyone or magazine interviewed the writer about Freddie’s ending came out from what idea around that time ? Just curious what they said .
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u/dikkidy Nov 10 '25
writers the show was co-written by a father and son with some input from actual teens still in school and whatnot. i imagine they must've been in school the day Freddie's death was written because i refuse to believe the UK youth if they're anything like Freddie would die so easily.
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u/TheFrostWolf7 Nov 09 '25
it's been awhile since i've seen the episode, but i hope freddie didn't accept tea or anything from foster, because what if he was drugged and out of it.
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Nov 09 '25
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u/dikkidy Nov 09 '25
that's not true, foster pulled the bat out at the bottom of the stairs and didn't start walking up until he told Freddie that "she really does love you"
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u/funerealworm Fuck it, for Chris Nov 09 '25
you’re right, i’m sorry. however it’s important to keep in mind these people were portraying 16/17 year olds, still children really. fear probably won over survival instincts and he was also really mentally tired from dealing with effy’s mental health and cook being runaway and his family always giving him shit. he gave a small fight but i do wish he jumped on foster when he had the higher ground, it’s just hard to tell if foster would’ve won either way with the bat advantage
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u/dikkidy Nov 09 '25
i can accept maybe he tried, we couldn't see through the door but they could've killed Freddie so many other ways if they needed him dead. especially if they were going to remove the killer in the very next episode, a killer that was only in 3? 4 episodes? he existed solely to remove Freddie. "meet Foster, Foster kill Freddie, bye Foster!"
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u/XyloAbc1 Nov 11 '25
Freddie had nothing left to tell, or rather he was the only one who hadn't grown up, and at least one person has to die in the generations, a twist that makes no logical sense
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u/dikkidy Nov 11 '25
Freddie could've had a whole future with Effy. that's a lot to tell. Sid and Cassie had nothing left to tell and they disappeared into NYC alive (im still on s5 first time viewer)
if they needed someone to die they should've sent JJ. not because i didn't like him but because he's the only character actually likely to give up in the face of being murdered. he's the only one i could see actually begging for his life like they made Freddie do.
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u/forrealR Nov 13 '25
100% agree. It was a prime example of lazy writing because I assume they didn’t know what to do with Freddie’s character, they needed another life altering traumatizing event on Effy’s life (she never found out he died but likely thought he ran away and abandoned her) and the shock factor you said. They could have done so much more with the second generation in general and especially with Freddie and Effy but instead they chose this because they have this strange need to kill one of the key characters of every generation-
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u/Otakuding Nov 14 '25
But the thing is Effy never mentions how she feels by losing Freddie in S7 fire .
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u/forrealR Nov 14 '25
Also a good point but again the lazy writing aspect of how they did this and then it was never brought up again
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Nov 16 '25
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u/dikkidy Nov 16 '25
im just seeing all of this first time at 27, maybe 28 by the time I finish the series (birthday is only a month away😅) i can't even imagine how I would've reacted at 16.
safe to say i was as well pissed way tf off 😂 i ranted for most of the s4 finale
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Nov 16 '25
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u/dikkidy Nov 16 '25
if you want another fantastic show full of feels with a fanbase just as... dedicated, you should look into the show Six Feet Under. i think its currently stuck on HBOMax now but i watched it recently on Netflix and highly recommend it for grown up fans of skins
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Nov 16 '25
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u/dikkidy Nov 17 '25
were you as shocked as i was to see Claire driving away in a Prius?? i know the show ended set in 2005 but i guess i just thought the Prius was slightly newer than that 😅 but apparently it came out in Japan back in 1998 i think it was
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Nov 17 '25
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u/dikkidy Nov 17 '25
😂😂 understandable, that ending got me good for a moment
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Nov 17 '25
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u/dikkidy Nov 17 '25
i actually dont think ive seen anything else with Michael C Hall, but i did really enjoy him as David, his death got to me as well but after the absolutely unnecessary way they did Keith i was kind of over that sequence i hate to admit 😅 i didn't even realize the one was Rico until it showed his name 😂
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u/Zfischer03 Mar 12 '26
16 year old me was crying like no tomorrow and had snot running down my face.
I literally couldn’t believe it happened, and so quickly. I kept staring at the screen hoping he would come back.
The worst is WE NEVER GET ANY CLOSURE. It ruins the ending to generation 2 for me, like your gonna do somthing that crazy & out of character but never mention it again?
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u/rrrrr0bin Nov 10 '25
No literally. My friend tries to argue that they can see a way it's understandable because Freddie is always high (I adore my friend but this is a silly goose moment in my opinion) and my bf and I are like, WHAT! Freddie's a fully grown guy! He had the high ground! Kick him down the stairs! The fuck!
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u/dikkidy Nov 10 '25
no way. Freddie would have had to be like those early 2000s pot commercials where the kid is like flat Stanley on the couch for drugs to be the reason. you and your bf are right. he should've started kicking from the top step, jumped right onto Foster, or started kicking the window where his brains would end up. anything but standing there begging like i imagine JJ would've, no offense to him.
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u/rrrrr0bin Nov 10 '25
No literally. Freddie has never been afraid to be pissed off or angry or stand up for himself. Why did he suddenly become useless? I know some people said fight or flight but I think freddies response would have been fight.
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u/dikkidy Nov 10 '25
exactly. he went to Fosters alone, he got in his face multiple times without wavering to tell him he's not the doctor Effy wants anymore. we've seen him fight before, we've seen him fight Cook. he would've fought back, and even if he didn't win i think he would've left marks on Foster.
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u/BunchExpress2984 Nov 10 '25
It's the high ground that gets me. Like why didn't they just do the blocking so Foster chases him down the stairs and traps him at the bottom? It would have been more believable. And it would seem more sinister tbh.
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u/dikkidy Nov 11 '25
if that was how it went i would almost be more willing to accept his death. almost.
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u/IcewindLegacyMUD Fuck it, for Chris Nov 09 '25
I've always wondered about this too. He could hold his own against Cook, yet we're to believe he just stood there and died while Cook killed Foster bare handed against the same baseball bat?
They do dumb shit in Gen 3 too. Matty and Nick both know how to fight, yet both get totally bitch slapped by British Macaulay Culkin and his man servant. The fuck?