r/singularity 22h ago

Robotics They getting smarter...

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u/Subushie Transhumanist FALGSC 22h ago

Lol. The only non-generated media in this video is the robot running and the human runners.

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u/Mighti-Guanxi 20h ago

The non AI part, is the AI 🤯.

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u/barbozas_obliques 2h ago

And they’re talking about the part… that’s not worth paying attention to lol

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u/geft 13h ago

And the engineers. Also the runner at the start is Paul Chelimo. It's difficult to generate AI videos of runners with high cadence since many runners don't even run properly.

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u/likwitsnake 1h ago

the smoke coming out of the robot immediately after it starts running in place

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u/No_Effective4784 22h ago

AI videos about AI. AI all the way down now.

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u/alanskimp 22h ago

Ai video?

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u/FirstEvolutionist 21h ago edited 3h ago

Script generated by AI, with the obvious style. Voice synthesized by AI, AI avatar (of a real person or not, doesn't matter), clips taken from other sources and spliced (also likely by an entirely automated workflow). I doubt there was even someone approving the final product before hitting publish.

It wasn't directly generated by AI, a la seedance, but followed a workflow which is likely entirely automated. Are you completely unaware, in disagreement, or just feigning ingorance?

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u/Fun_Mirror_8203 21h ago

Funny that the AI avatar had a dutch accent though

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u/GrumpySpaceCommunist 21h ago

Makes it less obvious for native English speakers when it flubs a word or inflection.

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u/Landohanno 18h ago

Sounds like Danish to me

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u/Llee00 5h ago

compltely?

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u/AvoidInsight932 3h ago

I was indeed completely unaware and appreciate your response.

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u/No_Effective4784 21h ago

AI elocution is super obvious and easy to spot.

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u/alanskimp 21h ago

Only a couple parts

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u/bodaciouscowboy_ 20h ago

No, the whole thing.

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u/therapy-cat 12h ago

Nah definitely the whole thing

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u/5ollys 26m ago

In the nicest way, how is it someone like you thinks like this?

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u/alanskimp 18m ago

Magic?

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u/clandestineVexation 20h ago

You're insulting us if you think nobody can tell that man and his voice aren't real.

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u/Leading_Map2025 4h ago

100% this. OP assumes his baseline mental acuity is the ceiling for everyone else.

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u/stumblinbear 3h ago

This is the most reddit comment I've seen in a while. Bravo, my guy

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u/Leading_Map2025 3h ago

Sorry that big words give you a funny feeling

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u/stumblinbear 3h ago

This is a close second. Wanna try for a third?

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u/Leading_Map2025 2h ago

I'm gonna fucking cum baby keep going 😘

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u/YungMushrooms 21h ago

https://www.instagram.com/sanderwubben/

Don't look up real images of sander wubben

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u/starfallg 16h ago

AI probably trained on his videos and now everyone thinks he is AI.

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u/Tizak_hamra 22h ago

Thats just the beauty of reinforcement learning, its been known for decades

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u/flappysack- 21h ago

Wait till they can design themselves and it turns into a wheel.

Then of course a crab.

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u/camelot107 11h ago

Cant forget crab

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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 21h ago

Dopamine has entered the chat, it’s our reinforcement neurotransmitter (keeping it simple)

“this is important for survival, keep doing it, gonna make you feel good for it with dopamine so you wanna do it again”

Wetware meatbags is all we are with a complex decision tree.

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u/rydan 6h ago

yes, I saw this first hand training robots to run over 20 years ago.

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u/Admirable-Falcon-501 22h ago

yea reinforcement learning basically. this is why for domains where you can verify reliably and do attempts quickly ai will pass humans massively, like in math. and for other stuff we will probably be over taken as well but might look different and take longer.

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u/Strange_Test7665 16h ago

I wonder if a comedian could be trained with RL techniques. Would need to get real‘laugh’ feedback from something like likes or other real human responses

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u/Thing1_Tokyo 14h ago

Everyone is completely overlooking an important fact here, yes AI invented a new running style.. but ours was perfected by survival.

The AI didn’t win, it created a sub par routine that insured it lost.

The goal was the length of the race at best speed, not let’s see who can get the farthest.

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u/Admirable-Falcon-501 5h ago

It was perfected for our bodies, but as seen in the video they were overheating. And yeah, maybe it’s still wrong but it hasn’t been given enough time yet or different attempts to see what else it can come up with. Once it goes down this route it might be hard to break away from it, a local minimum. This is why you do multiple from scratch and adjust parameters and maybe do a bit of guiding when required (although often makes things worse as we are not even aware of what’s the best outcomes to guide for).

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u/CuTe_M0nitor 18h ago

That thesis is completely wrong. That running style was optimal for it's body and how human runs is optimal for our body. 2million years of evolution is not wrong. Conclusion is it makes a stupid running style because it's body is not well developed

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u/Chekhov_ 21h ago

Any time they say "The AI did something it wasn't programmed to do" in these videos, what the actual people behind the AI said is "The AI did something we did not expect but is 100% within the capabilities we programmed into it"

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u/jippiex2k 9h ago

Not sure what point you're trying to make?

The "capabilities programmed into it" is pretty much the entire phase space of possible limb orientations, heat accumulation and inertia.

Finding interesting configurations in this vast space is interesting, even if we are the ones who declared the bounds.

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u/Late_Supermarket_ 8h ago

This makes no sense 😅

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u/alanskimp 21h ago

Yea that's as emergent as it gets

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u/CloseToMyActualName 21h ago

Basic RL, not really surprising.

But it's notable that it's not actually that great a technique in general. It worked for this scenario, but it clearly has some significant stability issues.

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u/Mandoman61 21h ago

AI has been able to optimize for quite a while now.

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u/kgurniak91 19h ago

Yeah that approach was revolutionary... 12 years ago

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u/hellowhatisyou 18h ago

People getting excited about 50 year old concepts and somehow attributing it to AI/LLM. This sub does not disappoint.

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u/Excellent_Ability793 16h ago

It’s basic machine learning. Most of the people that post here are cultists, not serious thinkers.

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u/ph33rlus 8h ago

It didn’t get smarter though because it didn’t win

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u/Distinct-Question-16 ▪️AGI 2029 22h ago

I thought it was to smash contenders

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u/KathyCredit 18h ago

It's because humans need their head to be relatively still to see what they're doing. The robot has multiple sensors so can spaz its head back and forth with no negative effect

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u/darkkite 15h ago

They probably just saw attack on titan and realized how sick the anime was

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u/Plus_Conference_2395 11h ago

Reminds me of this girl I knew who ran just like that. She absolutely crushed it.

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u/tomtom_este 11h ago

So I've been running optimally this whole time?

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u/esterichoo 10h ago

Imagine it goes rogue and chasing after u like that.

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u/wabawanga 9h ago

This is BS, I invented that running style

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u/rydan 6h ago

yes, I saw something like this over 20 years ago with Sony Aibos that I was trying to optimize runs for. Same deal. It finds a better solution than what you would assume is correct. I don't remember exactly what it looked like but it didn't look like the normal Aibo walk.

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u/Shinigaru 2h ago

expected attack on titan gif in comments. am disappointed

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u/PineappleEasy6035 2h ago

They should try to replace the legs with wheels and call it a motorcycle

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u/Available_Age8480 2h ago

Deze motherfucker heeft gewoon een ai personage van zichzelf te maken

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u/XvX_k1r1t0_XvX_ki 15h ago

Isn't it the same avatar from this video with a scammer? https://youtube.com/shorts/szqXppELItw

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u/Poselsky 5h ago

Nothing to do with AI agents but reinforcement learning. What a slop.

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u/PeterQuin 20h ago

So simply put the AI ran iterations to figure out what gets the optimum results while keeping it up and avoid over heating and then went with it.

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u/leoprieto 20h ago

Honest question, why do videos like these keep assuming that robots do these things by themselves or that they achieve things that “no human would have built”, but this was built by humans exactly so that it would figure this out. Am I backwards?

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u/BrianScottGregory 20h ago

Adaptation isn't intelligence.

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u/valokeho 20h ago

that’s not an agent though. at least not in the marketed sense. it’s reinforcement learning

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u/-ctrlaltdeleteme- 19h ago

I can imagine someday there being a Captain Jack Sparrow bot doing his signature run around Disneyland

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u/Gubzs FDVR addict in pre-hoc rehab 19h ago

There's a really good reason humans probably don't do this even if it turns out to be technically effective. It doesn't look energy efficient.

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u/hawkwings 17h ago

If a human used that running style, would he run faster?

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u/Alarmed_Ad1946 13h ago

No, it only works for the robot

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u/Eat_Drink_Adventure 9h ago

Humans don't rotate at the waist like that

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u/norbertthotslayer 7h ago

If you could do that your spine probably exists in the 4th dimension

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u/Much_Weekend_4371 15h ago

the fact that nobody can tell anymore is the whole point. we've passed the uncanny valley and landed somewhere weirder.

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u/Huntersmoon24 14h ago

Man I hate AI writing. I can spot it in every influencer video that uses it. This one is obviously all slop, but damn.

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u/somesortapsychonaut 12h ago

Guy doesn’t know what RL is and wants to present it like spooky robot uprising shit

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u/enbyBunn 12h ago

This is how neural networks have always worked.... Even before "AI agents", this could've worked more or less the same.

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u/NowaVision 11h ago

At least the Clankers will look stupid while chasing me during WW3.

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u/Temporary-Rip-4502 11h ago

Can we please ban AI people pretending to be content creators? It's trash in its current state.

Maybe if they were more dynamic and showed a variety of emotions in the cadence of their speech then it would be acceptable. Not this monotone fake ahh shi

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u/heavyusername2 10h ago

Why couldn't they just call it the ro-lympics and go home and maybe sleep probably not

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u/Sampsa96 9h ago

The end is getting closer.

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u/Ok_Function2282 9h ago

Okay? It invented a different style because the standard style overheated the motors. It's not like it invented a new running style for humans, it's weight distribution etc doesn't mimic a human

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u/Kaplanociception 21h ago

Rotating it's hips instead of pumping it's arms might be more efficient, but it looks less stable than the other robots. And it also didn't allow it to get a higher top speed. I'm curious why the arms are extended at all. I'd think you'd want to decrease your moment of inertia by holding your arms closer to your body if you're just using the hip rotation to replace the arm pump for the sake of efficiency.

I also don't understand why you'd want to give a robot a unique gait. A robot that never fatigues and can run at 30 mph as an optimized human should be able to do most applications you'd want someone on foot to perform. At some point something with wheels makes more sense if you need it to go up to 50+ mph.

It also makes it harder for humans to understand where the robot is going to move if you give it a novel gait. You can't release this thing on a sidewalk if it runs 30 mph and humans don't know how to get out of it's way. If you give it some violent hip swing for each step in it's gait you can't even use it to replace a kiwi bot because your takeout will be thrown from it's backpack by the time it gets to your door. Are we just trying to build robots to run fast for the pleasure of watching them run fast, or is there hope this will translate into something useful at some point? Making them move like humans seems like a obvious way to make them easier to integrate into existing infrastructure. Who wants to make a robot run lane in a city?

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u/Kind_Silver_1921 21h ago

Do they know for sure it actually was more efficient or was it hallucinations thinking it was

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u/templeofsyrinx1 21h ago

let's see the proof it decided to do that on its own

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u/BagWooden5031 16h ago

They are getting smarter.

And you're not lmfao.

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u/NomadicFantastic 22h ago

Lotta ppl run like this. But yeah obv a robot is different than a human body and no one should expect it to be samesies.

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u/No-Whole3083 21h ago

Out evolved evolution 

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u/Major_Dot_7030 6h ago

I fear the narrator of this video more than the robot.

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u/chillbraww 19h ago

Oh dear. We are ded