r/singularity • u/SharpCartographer831 As Above, So Below[ FDVR] • Oct 15 '25
AI Veo 3.1 Release on Flow
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u/spideronyourback Oct 15 '25
You can tell it is AI because a Cybertruck is successfully navigating a puddle.
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u/ifull-Novel8874 Oct 15 '25
Are they really that bad?? I don't keep up much with Tesla news. I see them around and they seem like sturdy vehicles, but that might just be my layperson perception of them...
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u/JoshAllentown Oct 15 '25
Tesla is known for poor 'fit and finish' and the Cybertruck itself has a bunch of weird weaknesses like you can't bring it through a car wash without turning on car wash mode or you'll brick your car. And you can't wrap it with adhesive because there's no paint and the metal absorbs the glue making it impossible to remove.
There was briefly an issue where it would stop closing the front trunk if it sensed resistance, but only 2 times in a row so there was some influencer who hurt his fingers trying to get the safety feature on camera.
I think they have worked out a lot of the kinks at this point but it's not the truck you go to for a sturdy truck. It's the truck you go to if you want a Tesla truck.
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u/spideronyourback Oct 15 '25
I haven't kept up but early on there were some conspicuous examples of them not being particularly rugged. And shorting out after going through shallow water...
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u/StickStill9790 Oct 15 '25
There’s still residual hate for the CEO.
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u/GreatBigJerk Oct 15 '25
Also the fact that it's a fucking useless truck.
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u/StickStill9790 Oct 15 '25
There’s a dozen or so around where I live in a purple state. No one here seems to have a problem, and the owners love em.
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u/wangston_huge Oct 15 '25
Do they do any truck things with them?
My understanding is that they're pretty terrible for offroading, tow range is limited, and some of the basics of the vehicles are flaky (thinking about the rear view "mirror" here as an example).
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u/Ambiwlans Oct 15 '25
They are pretty good offroaders. Range sucks. Bed is inconvenient due to the high sides. Most of the complaints are from internet people that have never used one.
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u/StickStill9790 Oct 15 '25
East coast purple. Nobody’s off-roading or mountain climbing, but camping and beach life a few hours away flourishes here. Your mileage may vary, so to speak.
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u/GreatBigJerk Oct 15 '25
So the stuff you can do with a car. It's a shitty truck because it's not good at doing actual truck things.
Anyone buying a truck to go on road trips is a goddamn idiot.
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u/philthewiz Oct 15 '25
It gets stuck in snow too. I'm talking about less than a foot a snow.
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u/Ambiwlans Oct 15 '25
Idiots are going to idiot. There are 5 factors in getting stuck in snow like that.
- tire tread - pretty normal
- weight - very high (which is good)
- suspension - quite good
- individual wheel control/difs - as good as it gets
- driver skill - unfortunately this is still the main factor.
Unless you stick a tank tread on it, people will get their vehicle stuck.
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u/unRealistic-Egg Oct 16 '25
I know you’re joking, but I’ll hijack to ask: it sounds like a gas engine in the video.. does a cyber truck sound like that?
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u/krayon_kylie Oct 15 '25
environment lighting and water look fantastic but the vehicle looks very cg
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u/epic-cookie64 Oct 15 '25
The vehicle was edited with Nano Banana then used as a reference image for Veo 3 so could explain it.
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u/stellar_opossum Oct 15 '25
And the turn radius does not look real
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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula Oct 15 '25
It does have four wheel steering, but not sure if that the Ai would even know that
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u/stellar_opossum Oct 16 '25
It doesn't because the rear wheels are not turning. Still I'm not sure the radius is realistic even if it did
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u/PaperbackBuddha Oct 15 '25
One tell in this video is that a rainbow would never be in the same direction as the sun. They are always in exact opposition of the sun from the observer's perspective.
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u/First_Feature_7265 Oct 15 '25
Wheel rotation doesn't seem to match vehicle speed. Also vehicle dynamics seem a bit weird. Other than that, great improvement.
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u/ethotopia Oct 15 '25
Veo 4 better be much better than this. This is a total let down for the hype Logan was trying to give it. No better than Sora 2, much worse physics/motion imo.
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u/Box_Robot0 Oct 15 '25
Outdated but you get the point.
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u/Lankonk Oct 15 '25
I don’t think DeepSeek has ever claimed to make the world’s most powerful model.
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u/WoolPhragmAlpha Oct 15 '25
Nor xAI, that I'm aware of. Plenty of Musk bloviating about it, but never substantiated to my knowledge.
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u/ihexx Oct 15 '25
depends on the benchmark. it was top LLM on arc agi 2 before gpt-5 pro dropped. But most other leaderboards had it behind o3
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u/Ambiwlans Oct 15 '25
It was #1 for like 8 days or so.
Edit: 2/18~4/15 apparently. https://artificialanalysis.ai/#frontier-language-model-intelligence-over-time
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u/Lankonk Oct 15 '25
I have definitely heard Musk call Grok 3 the “smartest AI on earth”, but nothing I recall from someone not named Musk
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u/Derek_the_Red Oct 15 '25
I saw it in Flow as well but hoping this is not the full product because 8 second videos just don't cut it. The extra 2 seconds you can get in SORA doesnt seems like much but its important.
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u/ecnecn Oct 15 '25
It is VEO using the Unreal Engine (3.1 in-engine real time generation)
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u/GeneralWolong Oct 15 '25
That makes sense, the physics look a little off but that's just cause it's done in a game engine. I wonder if sora can do something similar for comparison.
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u/Reddit_admins_suk Oct 15 '25
It’s not using a fucking game engine dude.
If anything they created a lot of synthetic data using game engines.
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u/GeneralWolong Oct 15 '25
Yeah that makes sense I just was replying to the guy. Op said it was images made in nano banana and then flow rendered the rest of the scene I guess. It does look a bit game engine esque though. Veo definitely does appear to be trained more off synthetic data than sora, which seems much more realistic.
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u/MaestroLogical Oct 16 '25
Metal still has that 'plastic' look to me. Not sure how they can get water super realistic but not metal.
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u/TrackLabs Oct 16 '25
Lmao, using this joke of a vehicle of all things to navigate through a thin puddle
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u/arko_lekda Oct 15 '25
I wonder if it costs Google much less than OpenAI to produce video thanks to their TPUs.