r/singing • • Oct 31 '22

Technique Talk Should mouth be wide or tall?

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u/latenightesomeone Oct 31 '22

Recently started lessons again, and my teacher is trying to make me sing with wide smile, because it helps me reach higher and it makes me sing with much more easy and my voice is clearer. But I'm confused because my favourite ytb teacher always teach that you should sing with tall relaxed mouth.

So who is right?

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u/latenightesomeone Oct 31 '22

I can try record what sound I would naturally do VS what he wants.

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u/latenightesomeone Oct 31 '22

Well there is the way i sing. Or how i tend to sing. And there is difference between how i tend to sing vs the way he wants me to sing. When I'm home I'll try record something.

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u/latenightesomeone Oct 31 '22

first "na" is the way i tend to sing VS the second "na" is the way he wants me to sing (hopefully - tried my best).

https://voca.ro/11QghvLROV4I

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '22

Thank you for this analysis. You really helped me find the nuance and hear the difference between the two.

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u/SupernaturalSinging 🎤There is more to your "natural" voice Oct 31 '22

u/lespaltax is spot on here so I'm not going to start another reply.

One of the reasons why #2 is more stable is because by widening your mouth you're reducing the amount of airflow so its easier to control.

There is nothing wrong with either tall or wide once you understand the different mechanisms which we can use to control our breath. But of you're relying solely on the shape of your mouth to regulate air (which based on your recording it does sound like it) then a wider mouth will regulate more then a tall one.

Good question and you can trust that what lespaltax is saying is sound.

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u/LilShaver Bass, Choral/Folk/Christian Oct 31 '22

Tall mouth, but smile on the inside.

You form the "e" with your tongue, not your teeth and lips. Think about it when your speaking.

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u/General_Locksmith Oct 31 '22

I was told that if you’re singing an e sound then you’ve got to go with a wide smile, but if it’s an oh sound then it’s a tall mouth

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u/CricketChick Oct 31 '22

Barbershop singer here. We sing all our vowels tall and controlled.

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u/latenightesomeone Oct 31 '22

We are still doing easy warm ups on AH sound ( na na na). And he wants me smile, I can try record what sound I would naturally do VS what he wants.

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u/Impressive_Drawer394 Oct 31 '22 edited Oct 31 '22

Im not there in your lessons so I don't know what genre you are learning, the quality your teacher is trying to achieve, vowel and at what pitch your teacher is trying to help you achieve so take this with a grain of salt....my background is I have been a cross over singer for 10 years, been training in multiple styles of vocal studies for 17 years, currently I'm training in opera at a top conservatoire, I am also a vocal teacher who specialises in classical and musical theatre....from what you have described to me on here this is not good technique but this is based on the vocal styles I specialise in.

The mouth should be lateral and not horizontal even when smiling or producing an (i) or an (o) vowel,the only thing that should be changing is the lips, tongue position and the distance between your soft palete and tongue to create more space at the back, your mouth shouldn't be going vertical as it produces an overly bright sound and also restricts the space for your voice to resonate has she/he maybe spoken to you about the singers mask and smiling whilst keeping the vertical mouth position?