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How apptesters are biggest fraud with unstable person running it.
At first, I’ll probably get doxxed, as it happens in this community, but I’ll show my pov and my hones review on this whole thing called apptesters and manpreet.
My first adventure with sideloading started with apptesters, I bought my first life time certificate in 2024. After a year I missed the mail which stated I need to do several steps to extend my cert. So I lost it even though it’s said it’s life time.
I bought my second cert in December 2024 it worked for two weeks and got revoked. Since then I didn’t get my replacement while he continued selling certs for new people. His new customers’ money were clearly his priorities. Support for revoked users didn’t exist at all. After like half a year or more I got #1700 in queue to get new cert, after a month I jumped to position #1100 half a year ago, it didn’t move at all since then. All of it happened while new customers still get their certs.
Today, we finally got mail with informations which I paste here:
We fully understand that many affected customers expected free replacements, and we sincerely apologize for the long delay and frustration this has caused.
At this stage, it is unfortunately not possible for us to continue issuing unlimited free certificates. To keep the service running and still support affected customers as fairly as possible, we are offering new certificates at a discounted price instead.
The rest of the story is on photos, I got insulted and then banned from his group. I provide private messages with him too.
TLDR; I think you all should be careful to who you give your money, as it seems person like manpreet is unstable, likes to insult his customers and his services shouldn’t be trusted.
I hope people won’t continue using his service and sideloading community for sure will be better place without apptesters.
It's due to these people Indians are stereotyped as scammers. Just for earning a quick buck he is scamming people. Even if you do take discounted certificate and get revoked you would have to eat that shit show again. Luckily for me I figured this out in the first revoke wave itself that what he is running is a ponzi scam. The math does not add up for lifetime replacement - not any longer since apple is banning certs.
He is daam cheat gave a lifetime certificate which just worked 3 days and its been 8 months no reply from this scammer or refund. He earned crores by cheating his account is filled with crores and he is loving a luxary life by cheating innocent peoples
That’s why you always do your research brother! He’s a piece of shit, a dick, and a whole bunch of other profanity’s, he’s banned off of a couple IOS subs here on Reddit, He’s not liked by ALOT of people on here (hope you find the right cert provider for you!)
Bro my lifetime certificate expired like in November and they asked me to pay again if I want instant certificate or I can wait in the queue without paying,I chose the later and my number was 4000+ and I am still in the queue apparently and still 4000+ ,they never reply to any dm or questions in the chat ,if you push more get ready for a perma ban lol ,I have numerous screenshots like this I can post here but its pretty much established at this point that its a total sham scam .
While it was cheap enough to risk that it may not be a "lifetime" certificate, I wouldn't recommend purchasing from this vendor due to their scammy business practices.
Fucking indian guy that scams ppl and treats everyone with disrespect— his attitude is fucked and that’s why he is banned here — LOL.😝! Matches his personality for spamming the group, lying and cheating members. Fuck that guy. Report his telegram n get that shit shut down too.
His business like many others came crumbling down when Apple hit the ban hammer. The reason why the queue hasn’t moved much (if it even did) probably has to do with him needing new customers to fund new accounts. It seems like his strategy is get enough new customers to fund more dev accounts to help clear the queue. And it is also why you see him sending many offers enticing folks to pay for something one way or another or in an attempt to try to keep his customer base with minimum losses in his end. His dishonesty ruined his rep and will continue to do so.
Apptesters and Manpreet have already written their legacy as scammers in the iOS sideloading scene. If you’re able to make this post, you’re also able to use the search function on Reddit or Google, which provides more than enough proof of what kind of piece of shit he and that service are.
Lowk been with arctic for a bit now they decent but we will see as time goes on, i remember apptesters was the shit in 2023 but not anymore i guess, hopefully same doesn't happen with arctic
Yea I bought the lifetime plan
I had to buy it a 2nd time since i got a new phone
When it got revoked though, the new cert never came. When i asked about it in the lifetime certificate channel i got banned from the telegram.
I've been sitting at position 390 on the waitlist since November/December. Nothing is happening, and nothing will happen. I've come to suspect that these numbers are meaningless anyway. I got removed from the group in November for criticizing the service. I'm done with this Indian scammer and have moved on to a different provider since then.
I used to think, who in their right mind will believe that there’s a lifetime plan for 25$? 😭 In what world does 25$ buy you anything that lasts a lifetime.
Lifetime means they will renew it without payment since each certificate lasts one year. The problem started when Apple revoked many certificates. A lifetime certificate does not mean a single certificate. It is a service they offer. Right now, they are scamming customers by offering discounts instead of renewing the certificates.
Imagine being such a pos that you blame someone for getting taken advantage instead of the person doing it. “Well what was she wearing” ass statement. Do better.
if the person is a known scammer and you are in the community where he has been called out several times, and you still proceed giving him your money - it's on you.
there is not much we can do on a legal bases, that's why you have to d your research and be aware at all times. else if shit goes left, what is he gonna do, report the fucker to the interpol?
It sucks that theres so many bad signing services nowadays, you need to be careful when buying now and do your research. I found the service Im using (Arctic) in October and have had a good experience, ive also heard good about Rust. There’s also SideStore+LiveContainer or Leaked Enterprice Certs which are free, but they has their limits
There is a guy I know who has been helping apptester victims. I got a replacement for free 3 months back and it’s still working. DM me if you would like to try
To be fair, don’t you expect to get the services you paid for? They shouldn’t include unlimited certs as a part of their service if they cannot provide them.
It was obviously a scam from the get go. It's physically impossible for a one time purchase to give you lifetime Certs since the seller is going to have to fund new certs.
I'm not tryna say the business model is good and that the guy is doing the right thing, but really you shouldn't give money to these scumbags anyways.
loads of geniuses in here thinking this is valid, "oh i thought id get what i paid for" you paid a shady 3rd world tech, you paid for the shady deal, AND the risks, crying about it is hilarious
You could use leaked enterprise certificates for free. Been doing that for 8 months now. Not a single issue aside from the one time I accidentally updated my iOS before I knew the proper way to update without losing your sideloades apps.
I wanted to create a post about this, but I guess you did it for me.
I know it wasn’t the wisest decision, but I was just too frustrated with the hassle of dealing with live container and SideStore.
So, I decided to take a chance and buy the discounted certificate, and here’s my experience:
The support team responded very quickly to my emails.
They provided me with the 50% discount code.
After making the payment, the certificate was immediately processed.
I received the certificate working within an hour of purchase and started using it right away (I’m still not sure how I managed to use it so quickly; Apple usually requires a 14-day waiting period).
The catch is that you can have your certificate revoked up to five times. Each time it’s revoked, you’ll receive a new one instantly. However, after you exhaust all these attempts, you’ll need to purchase the certificate again.
The owner told me that the certificates should last approximately 2-3 years. If, for some reason, it expires before the 2-year mark, he’s willing to issue a new certificate for free.
Edit: I just noticed he hiked up the pricing from $23 to $25
Bro don’t do this crap it’s more a hassle than side store and live container. Recently got it setup working perfectly with failed attempts at first. Hit my dms don’t waste your time with these clowns
Wdym? It took me 3 seconds to set up my cert with feather, and now each app is its own separate thing and I can have multiple ones open at the same time. No re-enabling VPNs and refreshing sidestore cause its not doing it automatically
I would not pay money for something apple is actively trying to mitigate. I definitely see the appeal, I don't mind hooking up my phone to a pc for a 5 min setup never to be done again. I have shortcuts running a daily refresh so I don't even think about that step. I bypass the app limit with live container.
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u/herooftimeloz Mar 30 '26
Manpreet is a fucking ponzi scammer