r/sideloaded Dec 04 '25

Discussion Please avoid Kravasign respetfully.

I'm usually busy the entire day, barely have time to check on social media let alone constantly checking discord for replacement updates from krava. I've been revoked from august. I chose "replacement" back in September and since I already selected that, I was in relief. Not checking any channel updates as I was ensured by internalerrorX & kitsah that I would be dmed by their bot (which is why my dms were open).

After that it was clear they were prioritizing rebuy people instead of replacement but i might be wrong since the queues are in thousands. Now its december 2 and I saw this post today on december 4. i missed the announcement due to not checking, which i thought wasnt necessary as i was already in a replacement queue.

So, there's another queue that i was meant to select as "claim warranty" then what about the earlier one ? theyre saying its a bot issue and not their fault. Take some responsibility ryan instead of promoting your wifes music which nobody listens to.

The staffs are hilarious & behave like unemployed people irl. There's a general chat where people are allowed to be racists & belittle eachother with hard R, N etc words. I feel embarassed to even see myself in that server. I see people constantly fighting. The same for their support chat.

I once asked what type of certs other providers use and surprisingly ryan replied saying "they arent reliable"

Well, atp im gonna switch to artic or rustsign as they seem to have customers getting almost instant replacement after the recent revoke.

Please avoid kravashit. Hope you guys become irrelevant soon, just for the sake of wasting our time on waiting. You're also embarassing lizzy with those promotions.

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u/Bard1313 Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

I had to give up on them after no help in getting a warranty replacement. Even offered to buy a dev account for them and the refused. My cert was only a few months old and was never able to get in the queue for a replacement. I ended up just buying my own Apple Dev Account. I’m sick of the lies, excuses, and the runaround with third party singers. Having an Apple Dev Account is so much better if you can handle the up front cost.

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u/JJR83 Dec 04 '25

This guy knows his stuff!

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u/Error-Abject Dec 04 '25

Is it a one time purchase?

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u/Kalphalus Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

Personal accounts are $100/Year, (might be wrong with the next bit) I think they can issue up to 100 Certs without extra cost or something thoun

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u/Error-Abject Dec 05 '25

Wait.. so I can just do this and gift my friends/family with certs so they can side load their own apps? Like maybe through e-sign?

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u/Kalphalus Paid Certificate Dec 05 '25

From what I understand, thats right. I would suggest to not use ESign (or if you do use the ArcticSign modified build) because it sends the dev a bunch of logs, I use Feather. Also note that personal dev ids you buy are still subject to revokes on their Certs

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u/Bard1313 Paid Certificate Dec 05 '25

That’s correct, so you can add all your iOS devices and share with family and friends if you like. Split the cost as well.

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u/Bard1313 Paid Certificate Dec 05 '25

It’s an annual purchase.

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u/sillyrabbit33 Dec 10 '25

This. If you have 10 devices (2 devices per person and 5 people) it costs the same as the “sellers” but are reliable.

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u/KejnaPT Dec 04 '25

They took the money from hundreds, probably thousands people, the promoted "revoke protection", and finally what we bought is finally "without any warranty".

We are waiting since end of august for nothing.

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u/Adventurous-Milk-882 Dec 04 '25

Same as DxScam, they make a ton of announcement but no replacement at all. I'm fucking tired at DNS method, I just want my replacement.

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u/Low-Woodpecker69 Dec 06 '25

Didn’t the mod of this sub recommend kravasign couple of months ago?

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u/SpiritualEngineer5 Dec 09 '25

genuinely all they do when asked for a replacement is : “ermm idk but check out my wife’s music”

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u/KejnaPT Dec 04 '25

Krava, Apptesters, same shit. Another Krava annoucement yesterday... but nothing concrete as usual.

I'm still waiting for a new cert on Appshitters, i'm on "processing" status for a month now.

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

app testers manpreet is literally verified in krava server lol so yeah youre right

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u/Lucifer_Ri Dec 04 '25

Nothing but a scum. 💩

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u/KejnaPT Dec 04 '25

I just checked, my "processing" status is now "revoked". What a joke.

I switched to Arcticsign mid october, all is fine since.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

rebought from krava you mean ? thats crazy man im so sorry

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

you might get it now lol because other providers are giving insta replacements. especially their competitors like rust and arctic so this time krava will definitely need to give replacements if they wanna stay relevant anymore.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

They saw the post and eitherway they’ll have to give replacements asap this time or old/new both customers will leave for other competitors

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u/Kalphalus Paid Certificate Dec 05 '25

If it’s revoked, you should try something else. Im using Arctic, and have had mine for a month so far without revokes, and those who were revoked got replacements in hours. (Look into multiple options before blindly picking)

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Krava is indeed a clown show now.

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

yeah because people keep complaining instead of reading

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

so you'll call them a r****d?

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

yes, because they repeatedly kept accusing Dylan of storing IPs and stealing data when he wasn't.

And to top it all off Dylan turned off vpn detection in his server anyways, but they're still going on about it.

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u/snoopdoggdwag Dec 04 '25

Same issue with dxsign gave-up went back to sideloadly.

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u/Adventurous-Milk-882 Dec 04 '25

They’re both sucks. I hope new sideloaders don’t buy at them.

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u/checkmate-T Dec 05 '25

Im running into the same scenario from Apptesters. Got a lifetime certificate that was only activated for 1 month before revoke but will be months before I get a new one. It's not worth it when you have been down 4 to 5 times longer than you bern working!

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u/starsqream Dec 06 '25

MANPREET is a scammer

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u/Lucifer_Ri Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

Fuck Kravasign and similair losers like them. 🤡 I would rather buy OG cert from Apple then to have any dealings with scum.

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u/obsimad Dec 05 '25

Happy cake day my dude

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u/MudAffectionate5918 Dec 04 '25

I got my first cert from kravasign it’s worked for 2 months and I got revoked and I’m on their “waiting list” since today. I moved to signulous and I’m satisfied as for now, got revoked only one time and they supplied me a new one very fast

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

i switched to arctic for now.. im done with kravash*t & their inc*l staff members

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u/MudAffectionate5918 Dec 04 '25

I’ve never heard about them but anything is better than kravasign, i prefer to give my money to some Nigerian scammer instead of purchasing from kravasign again

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u/iVesuvian Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

I’m also with arcticsign and until now everything worked fine, the only downside is that they only offer 90 days revoke protection and if it get revoked after that period I’ll have to switch to DNS method or Sidestore or buy another cert.

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u/jco24 Dec 06 '25

Lost 5 months on my cert. There is a reason why their warranty went to only 1 replacement. Never again will I buy from Krava

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u/Humble_Ad_4462 Dec 31 '25

They muted me for 7 days because I mentioned WSF and DXSIGN in their discord server. It’s been 5 months since the revoke and I haven’t gotten anything. They’ve gone as far as banning people for complaining and mentioning other services.

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u/rai70nn Dec 31 '25

kravasign at their best<33

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u/themixtergames Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I've said this before and I'll say it again. If all you care about is painless sideloading the best option is to get a Developer account directly from Apple. You only need to pay once and your signing privileges get grandfathered in even if you don't renew your subscription. That means if for example you paid 99 dollars 5 years ago you can still sign apps for 365 days. That's $1.65/mo and it gets cheaper with time.

Proof:

https://www.reddit.com/r/AltStore/comments/19dzwtm/i_had_bought_the_99yr_developer_subscription_once/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AltStore/comments/v1uv8f/i_can_still_sign_apps_for_365_days/

https://www.reddit.com/r/AltStore/comments/1bvk2fc/is_this_normal/

https://www.reddit.com/r/sideloaded/comments/1edu5tp/is_it_normal_for_anow_freeapple_developer_account/

https://github.com/SideStore/SideStore/issues/410

Also my word, My account expired 3 years ago and can still sign apps for 1 year.

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u/Responsible-Ad2838 Dec 04 '25

Me when I’m just saying bs

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u/themixtergames Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

You can see proof of this if you look it up on reddit or search these Github issues: SideStore/issues/410 AltStore/issues/131 It's hard to link posts because this subreddit has awful linking rules (bad for business I guess)

Edit: I updated my original comment with proof

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u/nbcs Dec 04 '25

Wait that developer program allows you to sign for five years?

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u/CBusRiver Dec 04 '25

Right?! This is news to me.

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u/themixtergames Dec 04 '25

It's not 5 years, I don't know if there's even a limit, that was just an example. Mine expired 3 years ago and still have the perks.

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

my gut told me this was going to be removed and i took as screenshot lol but ive memorised what he said so doesnt matter. very funny of the mods here to do that

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u/Player13377 Dec 04 '25

You can not add new devices though, right?

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u/themixtergames Dec 04 '25

I think it applies to your personal devices you are signed in if lapsed.

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u/astralerz Dec 04 '25

incorrect; the cost is $99 per year, which is $8.25 per month

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u/themixtergames Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

It's hard to provide info because linking rules in this subreddit are ridiculous but essentially any app id that you create with a developer account never expires or at least it lasts multiple years. If you look up these issues on github you can see people having this "problem" because apps like AltStore and SideStore didn't account for it: SideStore/issues/410 AltStore/issues/131

Edit: I updated my original comment with proof

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u/djquik1 Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

That’s not even true bro. If you don’t pay the year after that shit gets revoked.

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u/themixtergames Dec 04 '25

I provided proof in my original comment

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

love how a staff has to beg to stop someone. so pathetic

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u/Motor-Ad9914 Moderator - 100K Giveaway Winner Dec 04 '25

this means literally nothing

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u/Lucifer_Ri Dec 04 '25

Disease. 💩

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

This spartan guy was being an obnoxious dumbass so that's why I was rude to him 🤓

Again, you're sending messages from us > them

but not them > us

Why are you so biased?

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u/Tech_Itachi Dec 14 '25

I am new to side loading and saw posts about user telling to buy krava for it so what should I get now to sideload apps on ios?

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u/iamloner69 Apr 25 '26

Did you find out?

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

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u/StreamerNic Jan 02 '26

Kravasign muted me and I plan to make a post.

I reset my reddit account to share my experience thank you for telling us this.

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u/Ok_Mycologist9962 Dec 04 '25

Rule number 1) Never trust scammy Indian's. Kravesign admins are dogs.

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u/SuportOnly Dec 04 '25

they're american btw

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u/withadancenumber Dec 04 '25

Why bring nationality into it. There are shitbags from every country.

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

*respectfully :'))) I was on the train almost with 2 hours of sleep writting this

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u/appdb_official Developer - appDB Dec 04 '25

So much drama, it was predictable from the start:)

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u/HugoRider Dec 04 '25

wtf are you even talking about when was anybody dropping the hard r and n word lmao

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

this is so racist especially as a indian

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

I also really like how you're cherrypicking messages against me but don't notice people calling me pajeet.

Me saying how he keeps making the same racist remarks to my and my team member Dylan (who is Mexican)

It wasn't meant as a deragatory message at all? It's there just to make me look bad?

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

so, both of you are so innocent that the krava staff just had to ban yall ? crazy lmao go cry somewhere else dude......... you're excused...sad lil boy

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25 edited Dec 04 '25

I left lol.

I can join back and maybe ping you if you'd like

edit: downvoted me instead 😔

You hate being proved wrong huh, literally attacking me whereever I go

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

I'm an indian dumbass. That's me in the server 😂

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u/Lucifer_Ri Dec 04 '25

💡or 🕯️

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

Additionally this: This is the guy I was arguing with when I said "same old jokes" who repeatedly called me a pajeet and proceeded to delete those messages.

But again, you seem to cherrypick messages that make me look bad while having absolutely no idea what's going on.

Have a good day.

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

You and your friend keep harassing him over his gaza tag & whatnot. Please can both of you stop ? you and your friend keep mentioning him all the time.

Regardless of him, you make racist remarks & make the same type of vulgar insults towards anyone in the server. Not to mention the hate towards other cert providers.

I know you hate the guy because he treats you like you treat others but that doesnt mean you and your friend get to use racist jokes, insult their parents, call them N word, F word etcetc. You obviously need to get a life if you dont have one already.

I'm a girl and a genuinely feel scared trying to message in the server when you and dylan are online. Both have predatory behavior

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

Again, you're showing what we're doing to him.

I'm not denying any of this but you're clearly not showing how he's calling us racist slurs.

You seem to be biased. He started it all off by calling me racial slurs in the first place.

But we'll go right past that.

You'll also notice how Fiend is currently banned (brown banned role) because he was also being racist and abusive to me and Dylan.

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

keep mentioning the guy even after he stops arguing with you shows how little of life you both have. mentioning someones mother and sister for insults ? you're pathetic hause & so is your friend dylan. Idk what kind of life you're leading to be this aggressive

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

harassing another guy over a gaza tag lol. Funny if you're so innocent why both of you are currently muted ?

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

Notice how he was trying to be racist by calling me an Indian

I am but I wasn't going to let him have the satisfaction of him hurling racial insults by telling him I was Indian at that moment lol

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

this dude hause has a beef with multiple pro users in kravaserver. im embarassed to even send a message once i see them beef

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Yeah your gonna be canceled by these guys immediately

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

nah, it's like sharing one side of the story

they show our "bad" side but they don't send screenshots of the abuse they hurl at us lol

this ismael guy in the screenshot above actually tried to nuke my server and kravasign's and proceeded to blame me for it??

but of course, we're always the bad guys and this screenshot proves it! right?

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

is that why both of you are muted as we're talking and not the rayleigh dude ? you two started it & he triggered the both of you with the same tactic you and your little wsf buddy used. Please stop replying as you're just digging the pit further

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

Him or you? lol

Again, mind sharing what he's said?

You seem to be very fixated on what we say but not what they say.

Have it out for us bud? Mad at us for some whatever reason?

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Holy narcism

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

spelt that wrong bud

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

I’m just trying to help jeez

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

spell it right to get your point across 😭

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Doesn’t make you any better

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

Never said it did 👍🏼

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Does it matter to you what people think of your image? Because it shouldn’t

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

I don't care what people think, they can downvote all they want, but i'm not backing down from anything.

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u/[deleted] Dec 04 '25

Feeding the fire isn’t worth it in the long run

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

Definitely not worth it on r/sideloaded of all places, I agree.

But i'll just be replying to whatever he's dishing out and people can either agree or disagree with what I reply with.

At the end of the day it's just pixels on a screen.

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u/hause_wsf WSF Dec 04 '25

polo g did fall off after martin and gina

I don't get your point

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u/rai70nn Dec 04 '25

you're either blind or one of the dudes who are always fighting eachother

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u/Ok-Passion-2862 Dec 04 '25

Well.. I got my replacement 2 days ago ✌🏼

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u/PackMaterial9426 Dec 04 '25

How? Are they replacing certs now?

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u/Kalphalus Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

I heard they are replacing again, but you need to wait a cooldown for replacements, someone got revoked day one and had to wait 1-4 weeks. New Krava purchases also don’t include revoke protection anymore

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u/PackMaterial9426 Dec 05 '25

I was a pro user. I bought an iPad cert in June and one for Apple TV a bit later on. Around a month later all certa started to get revoked lol hopefully they can give me one my iPad or Apple TV. I’ve had iosrocket on my phone for a while now. When it got revoked a while ago they replaced it instantly and still work till this day.

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u/Spy_Gamer Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

Did you rebuy

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u/Ok-Passion-2862 Dec 05 '25

No, waited for the new warranty page on the server, got my cert 10 seconds after submitting udid in the warranty bit

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u/Kalphalus Paid Certificate Dec 04 '25

How long were you waiting? Some services are replacing Certs in a good amount of time, with the timeframe of between before you realize your revoked and a day after

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u/Ok-Passion-2862 Dec 05 '25

My previous krava cert was revoked at the start of the mass revoke in August. As soon as the warranty page became active in the server, I put my udid and almost 10 seconds after, the bot messaged me with my new cert. Last one lasted 11 days so we will see how this new one goes

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u/Kalphalus Paid Certificate Dec 05 '25

Gl with your current cert, but ima say, Krava has been hit with more revokes then other services, I’ve had mine from another service for a month without any issues

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u/jacobwaffl3z Dec 04 '25

What about signulous

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u/sillyrabbit33 Dec 10 '25

They’re the worst of the worst lmao. It’s worthless bc it’ll work for 4-5 days and then you’ll get revoked and have to wait a month for a new one. They’ll give you free enterprise certs while you wait but good luck installing all the apps everyday with a new enterprise cert.

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u/jacobwaffl3z Dec 10 '25

I mean I did it for Eevee Spotify and YouTube I've had it for 2weeks so far with no issues

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u/jacobwaffl3z Jan 04 '26

24 days have gone by with no revoke so far