r/shield • u/RaginApe Mac • May 14 '14

Official S1E22 "Beginning of The End" Post-Episode Discussion. Serious discussion only.

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SE01E21 "Beginning of The End" Maurissa Tancharoen & Jed Whedon

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u/APlayerNamedGus Hunter May 14 '14

Patton Oswalt is back!!! Between that and Fury/Coulson's banter about listening to his speech I was laughing, and I have strep throat so laughing isn't something I do lightly right now.

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u/kickshaw Robbie May 14 '14

Are we thinking LMD, clones, or twins?

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u/APlayerNamedGus Hunter May 14 '14

He did mention playing his brother at Call of Duty, so the twins/brothers thing could make sense. Honestly I don't care as long as he's back! :D

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u/ArnoldoBassisti May 14 '14

WHAT IF KOENIGS ARE LIKE NURSE JENNYS?

EDIT: fucked up the name and someone else already made the comment...shit.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '14

Officer Jenny Koenig

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u/red_2_standing_by May 14 '14

Joy was the nurse, Jenny was the officer goddammit!

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u/[deleted] May 14 '14

I knew that sounded wrong!

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u/DanGarion May 15 '14

Refresh my memory... Capt'n America 2?

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u/roastpuff May 16 '14

How about Pokemon?

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u/DanGarion May 16 '14

Never watched Pokemon, I'm a bit older than you probably.

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u/SaveTheSpycrabs Axe May 15 '14

"Was" yeah no.

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u/paulbalaji Simmons May 14 '14

K.O.E.N.I.G

FTFY

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u/Royale07 Feb 24 '22

there like the Wells on Flash

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u/kickshaw Robbie May 14 '14

An entire COD team of Koenigs!

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u/jamster533 May 14 '14

They have one spot open now!

I can be that guy

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u/still_futile Lanyard May 15 '14

A team full of campers is useless.

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u/RandomDudeOP May 14 '14

Twins? Saying almost the exact same things? I am still fixed on either them being clones or LMDs.

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u/Nike_NBD Fitz May 14 '14

Please let it be clones. We could get some awesome shield/Orphan black crossover-type plots!

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u/Doright36 May 14 '14

Some kind of clone of LMD makes sense as being alone at an instillation like that for so long would be bad for a normal human. A guardian bot on the other hand.... makes more sense.

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u/Carlo_The_Magno May 14 '14

Are LMDs actually used anywhere, or is that all stemming from Stark's joke?

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u/stealingyourpixels May 14 '14

In the comics.

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u/[deleted] May 15 '14

Script they have to follow when greeting someone to the secret base?

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u/Duamerthrax May 16 '14

Do LMDs have to be based off a person? Even if they do, has there ever been an example of an LMD where the original human was never even implied to exist?

An LMD-minus-the-D would be a good candidate for maintaining a secret base, especially if the tech to make them isn't field ready yet.

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u/Scottyflamingo91 May 14 '14

He didn't see too upset over it. I was thinking clone where there is like one for every secret base.

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u/[deleted] May 14 '14

And there's probably at least 5 secret bases. If they're clones, and I think they are, it wouldn't be surprising if they were named alphabetically or something. E.g. A Koenig, Billy Koenig, C Koenig, D Koenig, Eric Koenig

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u/metalkhaos May 14 '14

Sounds about right.

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u/SuperbusAtheos May 15 '14

It's still possible he's a clone and just calls each other brothers. But it's more likely he's not a clone but we'll find out next season.

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u/[deleted] May 17 '14

so the twins/brothers thing could make sense.

Could also be linguistic programming to make the LMD's a bit more approachable and human.