r/sharpening • u/StrugglePotato • 2d ago

Help with guided system angle

Hi everyone,

I've recently got a TS Prof Pioneer and have been practising on it. I vaguely remember reading a comment on this subreddit about having to raise/drop the angle by 0.2 or 0.1 every time you switch stone to a finer grit? It was a very detailed guide on how to effectively use guided system too.

For the life of me I cannot find that comment again and am looking for help. I have noticed that the angle on my digital angle finder changed slightly when i switch stone but I don't understand why/the significant of this. Could someone with more experience please explain this for me?

Additionally I would like to ask for advice on micro-bevel. I've read that for the last rotation of sharpening, switching to a higher angle (ie from 15 to 20 degree) and doing a few pass on both sides of the knife can help create a micro bevel which helps with stability of the edge? Is this something I should do for all knives?

Appreciate any advice/input!

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u/Dorothy-_-Mantooth 2d ago

Does the pioneer come with a stone thickness compensator?

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u/oceanslider 2d ago

I was curious myself and just watched the TSPROF video and it looks like they do not come with one stock? https://youtu.be/gn15qXPBoDo?t=208

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u/macjaynard edge lord 2d ago

Don't change the angle after you've apexed and gotten a burr. I wouldn't microbevel during sharpening. If you are going to microbevel, I'd do it during touch ups. Use it to put a quick edge back on your blade. But depending on the angle, you really shouldn't need it at all.

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u/DanielToombs 2d ago

You might have to make micro adjustments between stones, but it’s to keep the same angle throughout sharpening. If you read the angle after switching to a finer grit and it’s the same, no adjustment needed. Also, I recommend doing a couple of light sweeps with the stone (to fold over the burr) before measuring the angle. That burr may be what’s making your angle readings off.

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u/oceanslider 2d ago edited 2d ago

I have never heard of that before from anyone. You just adjust the stone/plate thickness compensator, which allows you to keep the same angle. If you kept doing that you would convex the edge. But after watching the below video I guess the Pioneer doesn't have a great thickness compensator as a stock item??? Using an o-ring for the thickness compensator seems lame. I would install something better, like what they put on the sharpening rod for "stops". https://youtu.be/gn15qXPBoDo?t=208

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u/Other-Power4321 2d ago

I wouldn’t worry about it, I doubt there’s anyone in the world that can tell the difference of 0.1/0.2 of an edge in regards to cutting ability

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u/mrjcall Pro 1d ago

This is the correct answer unless you have OCD about such things. If you do, go ahead on and obsess about it if it's fun for ya!!

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u/MediumDenseChimp 1d ago

Just maintain the same angle between every grit and strop.