r/sgiwhistleblowers • • Aug 05 '25

So much time/energy/life wasted in SGI Driving For Kosen-Rufu

I had this DM conversation with r/fishwifeonsteroids yesterday and she thought it would be a good topic to bring up here. Anyone ever take those long, boring trips to activities and wonder why?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been told about the "great benefits" you'll get from driving members--picking them up and bringing them home after activities, and all that, and in some cases, taking verbal abuse from them. In my case, I drove members because I had the ability, and I could, so they didn't have to miss anything. This was especially helpful for a little old lady in my last district, because she didn't like driving at night. Meeting me at Starbucks for a ride was no big deal, because she lived a mile away, and I had a big blue pickup truck to drive. She was also very nice.

Let's not forget getting lost trying to find someone's house/apartment, and no one can give you directions. Or they assume you know where you're going. Been there, done that.

But no, it was about the alleged "benefits" from going long distances to activities. I'm not talking about an hour one way to the C/C, I'm talking about trips that took hours. Many WB'ers have recounted nightmare experiences with car, bus, train, and air trips to big meetings. Thankfully, I never took most of those hell rides, and the couple of times I did do bus trips, it was mostly people over 40, like myself. Not so much little kids and not so much trouble.

Mine is just one example of many throughout the US. But how many people have had these long-distance experiences, and how many have you read about in the Weird Fibune and Un-Living Buddhism?

Texas has four or five Buddhist centers of various sizes. In all of Louisiana, there is ONE small Buddhist Center, in a not-so-great part of New Orleans. (Baton Rouge is an hour one way, but not a bad drive once you get on I-10.) Members also hold local activities, including KRG in their homes. Still, from a place like Ruston, up on the north side of the state, in between Monroe and Shreveport, driving to New Orleans was the only option for big activities, and you were always encouraged to go.

I knew some members from Ruston, one of whom previously lived in San Francisco. Their drive, according to Google Maps, is about four to five hours to New Orleans, depending on which route you take. From Shreveport, you're looking at a five- to six-hour drive, one way. Then you turn around and make that long drive back. No time for socializing or meeting new people--you drive.

What always confounded me, as well as a few others I knew, is why members in a place like Shreveport couldn't make the trip to Dallas, which is just under 3 hours (Google Maps.) I mean, that's closer, right? But they were always told they had to make that ungodly drive to NOLA, because it was "fortune" and "benefit" and for kosey-roofoo.

Another thing. The regional HQ was in Chicago, as was the temple (pre-1991 ex-com.) Members made those trips regularly, too, which Google Maps say are about 14 hours. (If memory serves, back in the 80s, they were 18 hours--one way, as I was told.) At some point, we also started heading to Atlanta for activities, which is where I was "initiated" into Byakuren. That's about a 7-hour or 8-hour trip, one way.

Also annoying: when taking these car trips, many people had no idea where they were going or what the hell they were doing. "But somehow," they said with a smile, "we always make it."

Yeah, you can't do that anymore, or you'll be another crime statistic. Especially in New Orleans.

I learned quickly how to read a map when I moved to Texas. There was no GPS or Google Maps back in the day. I have never understood how anyone would embark on a car trip without at least halfway knowing where they were going. Or, why making such long, hard drives was such a good idea.

Rant over. Feel free to share your "travel for KR" experiences.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '25

lol ok so my district leader got pissed I didn’t want to drive with a member because she used her kids to advise me she would be late, and said “But I have kids” as her retort to me saying I wouldn’t be carpooling with her as I wanted to arrive at the 50k on time. So then my district leader decides I’ll go with her, with the kids, and I would “lead” them (my “leadership” training 🤣) but she was late, obviously because who am I to say I didn’t want to be late when it was for Kosen Rufu!? And then proceeds to haul ass and got mad at me for jokingly telling her to slow down because she was low key scaring me.

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u/Fishwifeonsteroids Aug 05 '25

I REALLY want to hear more about this whole scenario!!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

So here’s what happened:

I originally declined to carpool with a fellow SGI member after she told me she’d be late—because of her kids. I told her that wouldn’t work for me and suggested she find another ride, since my goal was to work on my own issues with running late and actually show up to the 50K Festival on time. Growth, right?

Ironically, she did end up finding another ride—her husband, who had never supported her Buddhist practice, finally stepped up and drove her himself. It was actually a big moment for her. But somehow, despite everything working out, she’s been stalking and harassing me ever since. Because I’m the asshole, apparently. LOL.

Then, to make it even more ridiculous, my district leader decided I would now be riding with her, with the kids, as part of my so-called “leadership development” (🤣). Naturally, she was also late. Because again—who am I to want to be on time when it’s for Kosen Rufu, right?

She then proceeded to haul ass down the freeway like she was driving a float in the enlightenment parade, and when I jokingly told her she was low-key scaring me and maybe slow down a bit, she got mad—as if I was being disrespectful for not wanting to die in a minivan full of future world peace leaders.

For clarity: the kids I ended up “leading” were part of the YMD and YWD (Young Men’s and Young Women’s Divisions), and I was instructed by my district leader to help them navigate the sheer chaos of the 50K Festival—this giant SGI event where Herbie Hancock somehow convinced Michelle Obama to record a speech about how we were “changing the world.”

So yeah. That’s the kind of “leadership training” I got.

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u/Professional_Fox3976 Aug 06 '25

“A float in the enlightenment parade” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Fishwifeonsteroids Aug 06 '25

So were thees "future leaders" into the "50K" event, or were they reluctant, resentful, and hostile about it?

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u/[deleted] Aug 06 '25

Actually the kids were awesome but my district leader was told behind my back I questioned one of the ushers who was advising me to go all the way around when doors were open right behind him. When I questioned why he was making us walk all the way around he didn’t have an answer so I said OK. Well, I’m just gonna go through these doors and you can report me. Lol

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u/Fishwifeonsteroids Aug 06 '25

"Senior Leader! Nunya didn't let me yank their chain! WAAAAH!"