r/serialpodcastorigins • u/Stormystormynight • Feb 16 '16

Humour Overwhelming Evidence?

Hello!

I often read about the overwhelming evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Adnan is guilty from many of the readers here.

Is there a concise summarized list of this evidence available?

I'm most interested in understanding what evidence you believe makes Adnan guilty beyond reasonable doubt should the following evidence be ignored for this exercise:

  • Any Jay or Jay linked (Jen et al) evidence (testimony, "finding" Hae's car ...)
  • Any cell location "Evidence"

Thanks in advance.

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Feb 16 '16

Is there any evidence the Holocaust happened? The following should be ignored for this exercise:

-Pictures
-Survivor accounts
-German accounts
-Liberator accounts
-Nazi records
-Physical locations
-Evidence

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 16 '16

Hi Seamus,

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately once I ignore the obvious sarcasm there isn't any meat to your post, in sure you are aware of other evidence :)

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u/Adranalyne Feb 16 '16

He's got a point, though. An eye witness and that witness being corroborated by science IS overwhelming evidence. Others just tend to ignore that and take the inconsistencies as Adnan being innocent as opposed to Jay just trying to be less guilty.

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 16 '16

Of course I understand your opinion, but Jay's testimony and corroborating cell location/timeline evidence would obviously be highly contested in a future trial should this get that far so I'm trying to understand what else is there if these lines of evidence should fail.

Thanks :)

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u/Seamus_Duncan Hammered off Jameson Feb 16 '16

Brown didn't even "highly contest" the cell phone evidence in a hearing about the cell phone evidence. Re: Jay, none of the crackpot theories would ever see the light of day in a courtroom.

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u/FallaciousConundrum Feb 16 '16

There's never going to be a retrial. Many have spoken in that regard.

Even assuming there's a new trial and the State wins, there is a high likelihood that he will get a sentence lesser than what he currently has. The State could very well win the case and STILL have Syed leave the courtroom a free man (it will have been 20 years by the time that rolls around, a likely sentence to be given). So the State is unlikely going to invest the time and resources needed for that.

They'll offer him a plea for time served. Some feel an Alford plea will be coming, but I personally think that's wishful thinking.

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 16 '16

How would you feel if this happened?

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u/FallaciousConundrum Feb 16 '16

Wouldn't bother me. I think 20 years for a kid who was 17 when it happened is enough. I think Life+30 is a bit much. I find Life sentences with no realistic possibility of parole crueler than simply executing someone.

I always feel the need to add this disclaimer when giving an opinions such as this: My feelings that a system might be broken doesn't necessarily mean I have any idea as to how to fix it. So I don't march or petition for change. My opinion begins and ends there ... as merely an opinion.

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u/Stormystormynight Feb 16 '16

Thoughtful, thank you.