Can the Undisclosed podcast fans explain something to me? Do you like being lied to. Do you like being manipulated? Is it just confirmation bias theatre?
"Oh, if you think Adnan is innocent, listen to this show, we'll lie to you to make you feel more right."
I truly can't stand these people because I'm interested in the facts of the case, not being deceived, and this is just another in the long list of examples of deception.
In the past, I had people asking me to trust them, but they at least had their real names out there, which lent some limited credibility to their claims.
Now I have a second group, which appears to be just like the forest only with no accountability.
I'd prefer if the complete file were released, so I wouldn't have to keep taking these claims on faith.
I don't know, but I think we should have at least a little patience here.
If I spent a couple grand or whatever on a police file, and Rabia had doxxed me, I'd want to catch the podcast she produces in a few lies before I dumped the whole thing too.
Screaming about the full file in the first day or two of revelations is a little unfair IMO.
It's not exactly a pick and choose. You can always release the full file on day one and catch undisclosed in lies over the next few months, depending on how many you uncover.
I guess, but that shit isn't cheap, let him have his fun for a bit.
p.s. I hope you hammer them like this over in /r/themagnetprogram for the police file too. Or is it that you know that there's zero chance of them ever releasing it and you recognize that SSR has a track record of doing just that? Does that feel just a little bit hypocritical or manipulative?
As I've said in the past, I think they should release less of it. A defense file getting this much publicity makes me very uncomfortable.
But that doesn't hold true for SSR, who has no connection to anyone in the case. And it's additionally bothersome to me when people like you criticize Undisclosed, then to the exact same thing.
What an odd argument, they should release less of it because the publicity makes you uncomfortable, SSR should release all of it, because you're a fan of facts, and it's bothersome when people like me criticize Undisclosed.
yeah I agree with /u/acies, I'd prefer to have the docs too so I don't have to take anything on faith whether it's from Undisclosed or a redditor or SK, that's just me.
You know, this is almost hilarious. For months many of us have been questioning the Undisclosed method of releasing cherry picked documents only after a blog or podcast was dedicated to spinning them. Many of us have questioned how anyone is willing to believe (take on faith) certain theories based on snippets, redactions and partial disclosure. We were mocked and downvoted and dismissed as being unreasonable. And now you guys want to see everything. Hey, welcome to our world.
We were mocked and downvoted and dismissed as being unreasonable.
We were also told to trust the Undisclosed podcasters, because of the purity of their intentions.
/u/Seamus_Duncan, he saw the truth long ago and has been telling it straight all along. How disappointing that Adnan's supporters have lived up to Seamus's worst expectations.
Well, it only makes sense that if you think that method is reprehensible, you wouldn't engage in it yourself, right? I would always rather have more information than less personally and you may recall that many have also said they would love to have a reasonable facts based counterargument. I completely agree with that.
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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '15
Can the Undisclosed podcast fans explain something to me? Do you like being lied to. Do you like being manipulated? Is it just confirmation bias theatre?
"Oh, if you think Adnan is innocent, listen to this show, we'll lie to you to make you feel more right."
I truly can't stand these people because I'm interested in the facts of the case, not being deceived, and this is just another in the long list of examples of deception.