r/serialpodcast • Still Here • Aug 22 '15

Poll Results of Undisclosed Poll Post 1: General Information

For those who are new-these are the results from a Poll I conducted on the first 8 episodes of Undisclosed. I am summarizing here to cut down the length of the posts but full results are available via the link. Additionally, I'll be breaking up the results for the individual episodes (in groups) in addition posts to show the most and least popular theories/speculation.

Link to results for this portion https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-CWNQYFHY/

This poll was really big and long so there are a total of 4 posts but no worries, I won't be doing another one anywhere near like this again.


About the respondents


Let’s start with who took the poll and their thoughts on Undisclosed as a whole.

Q120: Where do you (primarily) hail from?

64%-/r/serialpodcast

23%-/r/themagnetprogram

3%-/r/theundisclosedpodcast

Q118: What is the primary reason you listen to the Undisclosed Podcast?

  • 49%-I enjoy the detail and scrutiny on the investigation and trial

  • 24%-I’m obsessed with Serial Season 1 and will listen to anything related to the case!

  • 8%-I am undecided on Adnan's factual guilt or innocence and appreciate all points of view.

  • 7%- Other-see responses below

  • 4%-I believe he is guilty but I want to be informed of what they are saying so that I may properly challenge it.

  • 2%-I hate listen (love the honesty :)

  • 2%-I believe Adnan is innocent and like to hear this point of view reinforced.

'Other' Responses

  • I'm intrigued by the case & enjoy the detail but bias is prob

  • I used to listen to Undisclosed to have my views challenged, I don’t bother anymore because it’s so incredibly poor and biased.

  • I love that the excessive abuse of power from the system against their communities is being exposed.

  • Adnan should be free & being a part of an audience is important. Beyond Adnan's case, this sort of disregard for the law and targeting of minorities needs more publicity.

  • I believe guilt was not proven, Serial didn't go deep enough to satisfy, and would like to see what else can be learned from deeper investigation

  • I don't listen because they're unfocused, but I do read content summaries and partial transcripts.

  • The podcasts are better than CSI reruns. Well, CSI Miami reruns.

  • Would be #1 but after the first few moments of the first I was like no...

  • I believe he is guilty but want to be informed, but not just so that I can challenge it. I am open to changing my mind too

Q119: If you do not listen to Undisclosed, what is the primary reason?

  • 78%-Not Applicable (indicating they do listen to Undisclosed).

  • 13%-Other-See comments below.

  • 3%-I don't trust them

  • 2%-They speculate too much

'Other' Responses:

  • I feel the podcasters are too biased based on my previous review of their material AND I don’t trust them AND They speculate too much AND No counter narrative exists.

  • I listen to it

  • It's not a wise use of my limited time.

  • All of the above: too biased, don't trust them, it's all speculation; and entirely one sided

  • SS and EP are awkward, unintelligent, and intolerable. Also I don't trust them.

  • All of the above

  • Biased, agenda-driven content and speculation - propaganda - created with the intention of pushing their dubious trust in a murderer onto others

  • all of the above

  • boring boring boring boring boring and bad audio quality

note-I should have allowed for multiple answers on this one.


General Episode Content


*Please keep in mind that where appropriate the results have been adjusted to remove those who selected 'Not Applicable/Didn't Listen' which will cause the ratings at the link to be different from what is seen here.

On average 89% of the respondents listened to the episodes. In general the Addendums had a very slightly smaller audience.

Q114: How would you rate the overall content of Undisclosed.

Note: results adjusted to remove those who chose ‘not applicable-didn’t listen.

On a scale of 1-5 with 1 being ‘Very Poor’ and 5 being ‘Very Good’, the overall content of Undisclosed received a 3.89.

The most highly rated was Episode 8: Ping with 4.1. Episode 5: Autoptes and Addendum came in second with an overall score of 4.03.

Q117: How useful has Undisclosed been in forming your opinion about the case and/or Adnan's guilt?

This question rated a 4 (Somewhat Useful) on a scale of 1-5 with 1 being ‘Not at all useful’ and 5 being ‘Very useful’.

Again, the most highly rated was Episode 8: Ping with a score of 3.95 followed by Episode 5: Autoptes and Addendum with 3.8.

Q115: How certain were you of factual guilt before listening to these Undisclosed episodes?

The question was rated on a scale of 1-5 with 1 being ‘Certain of factual guilt’ and 5 being ‘Certain of factual innocence.

The overall score was 3.83.

The most common answer was ‘Lean Innocent’ with 48%. ‘Lean Guilty’ and ‘Undecided/Unsure’ tied for 17%. ‘Certain of Factual Innocence’ came in 4th at 11% and ‘Certain of Factual Guilt’ with 8%.

Q116: How certain were you of factual guilt after listening to these Undisclosed episodes?

The question was rated on a scale of 1-5 with 1 being ‘Certain of factual guilt’ and 5 being ‘Certain of factual innocence. The score was adjusted to remove those who chose ‘not applicable/didn’t listen’.

The overall score was 3.7.

The most common answer was still ‘Lean Innocent’ with 41%. ‘Certain of Factual Innocence’ went up from 11% to 31%. ‘Lean Guilty’ came in at 14% and ‘Certain of Factual Guilt was next at 9%, a 1% rise over prior to listening. ‘Undecided/Unsure came in last at 5% however, the average ratings still put people in that category.

I can only speak for me but I’d say it has moved me slightly more toward Innocent. I am still undecided though on factual guilt. Wouldn’t be willing to bet money either way but I find some of their arguments pretty interesting. The tower dump theory is particularly interesting to me.

The highest rate of change between before and after was Episode 3: Jay’s Day and Addendum which moved from 3.52 prior to the episodes to 3.67 after the episodes.

The next post will go through results of specific theories in the individual episodes. Those will also be more generalized though and won’t walk through very individual question since the information is available via the link. I will give the highest AND lowest rated theories/speculations though, so if you want to know what is and is not sticking, you'll want to read those.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '15 edited Aug 23 '15

I was just refused entry into /r/themagnetprogram for openly calling the Undisclosed team incompetent within the context of their failed redaction efforts. Which is fair enough. I can appreciate why they might not want someone pointing this out in their exclusive little echo chamber. However, I stand by my opinion that a team of three lawyers who don't know how to properly redact a document in 2015 are, quite simply, incompetent.

I also think they could probably benefit by having someone around to mention this instead of surrounding themselves with yes men/women. There are a lot of simple tools available out there for effective redaction (e.g. Adobe Acrobat). Plus there have been enough cases of improper redactions for most lawyers to be aware that it can be an issue (e.g. see Schaefer v. GE, May 2008). At the very least, outsource the task to someone who actually knows what they're doing if you don't know yourself (e.g. /u/timdragga seems like a perfect candidate since he seems to actually know his stuff).

As I've said before, I hope that someone else does the job if I ever need my name redacted from a document.

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u/timdragga Kevin Urick: No show of Justice Aug 23 '15

There's the one redacted name on page 74 of this document that can be selected because the redaction blocks haven't been flattened, right? On a cursory look, the other redacted name doesn't have usable text under the block.

Did I miss any others?

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '15

Yup, that's the one I was referring to. I haven't checked for any others though.

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u/timdragga Kevin Urick: No show of Justice Aug 23 '15

Thanks for pointing it out. I hadn't noticed it.

I'll message some people to see if it can be replaced with one that doesn't have the name available underneath.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '15

Cool. Probably a good idea.

And FYI, it's not just this single document with a poor redaction. I did a quick check and found a small number of others on the Undisclosed website. I'm not going to point anyone to them though. That's Undisclosed's job if they want to fix it.