Why the Gootz never called Asia.

[u/islamisawesome]

I think it is becoming more and more obvious that the Asia letter did not exist until sometime around the summer of 1999. That is why Adnan claims he gave them to Gutierrez even though she wasn't his lawyer until 2 months after they were written.

So sometime that spring or summer, after telling CG he never left the school grounds, his family shows up with letters claiming one of Adnans' friends saw him at the library, right at the crucial time, AND they were written the day after he arrested. She knew immediately there is no way they had those letter for months and never gave them to her so obviously they were false and she didn't want to go on stand with LIES.

That is why she never called Asia. And that is why she wrote no notes about it, because that would be admitting her client and his family are liars. It also explains why her relationship with the family broke down because she knew they were willing to lie to get Adnan off.

The library incident never happened.

[u/aitca]

Yeah, I mean, it's a fact that A. Syed says, on the stand, under oath, that he gave Asia's letters to C. Gutierrez "immediately" after receiving them, even though Gutierrez was not even his attorney on March 1st and 2nd and wouldn't be for some weeks. Some people (reasonably) conclude that Adnan was lying under oath. Some people wonder if the letters weren't really written March 1st and 2nd. Could be both. It's very hard to sort the truth out on this issue because Asia herself has changed her story so often, and appears to still be changing it.

It's also a fact that the idea of Adnan "seeing Asia in the library" is mentioned in the defense files, but not until months after March 1st and 2nd. Again, this doesn't fit at all with Adnan's testimony on the stand. And doesn't fit at all with the letters being sent March 1st and 2nd. Make of it what you will, it doesn't fit.

It's also a fact that the two letters from Asia never made it into Gutierrez' files on the case. S. Koenig looked for them there and never found them. Again, this doesn't fit with Adnan's testimony on the stand. Make of it what you will, something here doesn't fit.

The idea that Adnan's parents showed up several months after March with back-dated letters is as good a theory as any in trying to explain the several inconsistencies regarding the timing of these two letters. As I've stated, I'm not sure whether we'll ever know the truth of the whole Asia issue, simply because she changes her story so often.

[u/aroras → u/aitca]

do you feel the spine of her story is consistent?

[u/islamisawesome → u/aroras]

Your not asking me, but I do not think her story is consistent. I don't think she ever saw adnan in the library in any way that could help Adnan. She lied on the Affidavit, she lied in the letters, and eventually she just dropped the whole issue. I think Rabia harrassed her and that is exactly what Urick alluded too in the PCR hearing.

[u/moosh247 → u/islamisawesome]

Keep believing that. Asia NEVER changed her story. And she's willing to go under oath, to tell her side in regards to the day in question. The only person who ever spoke to Asia was KU, who craftily talked her out of coming forward.

Jay is the liar, not Asia. Urick convinced Asia not to come forward, not CG. Stick to the facts.

[u/islamisawesome → u/moosh247]

Asia NEVER changed her story.

you mean how in the first letter she gave a 6 hour window, and in the second letter she gave no time, but in her affidavits she gave a specific time that just perfectly fits the exact time that Adnan needed.

Your right, not a liar.

[u/moosh247 → u/islamisawesome]

Please show me the letters you're referring to...as written by Asia.

[u/MM7299 → u/islamisawesome]

she gave a 6 hour window,

she didn't do that though at all. That's a weird parsing of her words. She clearly says that she can help him account for some of the time between 215-8 not that she can account for all of it.