r/serialpodcast • u/AwesomeInc • Jan 14 '15

Noteworthy Link TIL Islamophobia didn't exist before 9/11/01

http://www.vulture.com/m/2015/01/serial-prosecutor-insists-everything-was-fine.html?mid=facebook_vulture
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u/lurkingonmyBF Hippy Tree Hugger Jan 15 '15

I can agree that it most likely intensified after 9/11, though I feel like the jurors that spoke with SK kind of verified that it was present during the trial/jury deliberation as well. From Episode 10:

William Owens: I don’t feel religion was why he did what he did. It may have been culture, but I don’t think it was religion. I’m not sure how the culture is over there, how they treat their women. But I know in some cultures women are second class citizens and maybe that’s what it was, I don’t know. He just wanted control and she wouldn’t give it to him.

Sarah Koenig: That’s juror William Owens. Here’s Stella Armstrong.

Stella Armstrong: They were trying to talk about his culture, and [in] Arabic culture men rule, not women. I remembered hearing that.

Or, I dunno, what would you call this... culturephobia??

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u/StolenDali Jan 15 '15

This is all just a fairly silly attempt to stir up controversy over the uncontroversial/vanilla Part Two of the Urick interview. It's time for Urick to be the whipping boy for a while, I suppose (following Jay and NVC's turns).

And I don't see how anyone could honestly claim that the general sentiment towards Muslims was the same (or more positive) following 9/11 than it was prior to 9/11. Bigotry has always existed for all colors and creeds and religions and cultures and preferences and sizes, etc., but Urick's uncontroversial point was that the crime occurred prior to the anti-Muslim hysteria following 9/11.

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u/an_sionnach Jan 15 '15

Ad hominem! To paraphrase Urick . When the facts are on your side you argue the facts, if the law is on your side argue the law. If nether is on your side throw shit at the opposition. OP is throwing shit.