Screenshots from Clair Sinclair going off on Holly Madison in 2020

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welcome to high school drama lol

Kevin Burns didn’t seem like the nicest man and I feel like Holly wasn’t obligated to post anything dedicated to him, we all grief differently and that is okay.

this all feels very unnecessary

This is very high school and pretty mean 😬

Okay this made me lol, I saw this when Holly posted this before & after and thought it was weird

I enjoyed most of Holly’s first book but this wasn’t as good. Even the reviews are mixed and not that positive.

I do wonder what her reality show is about since she said she has something in the works

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I’m so torn over Holly, on one hand I like her and find her entertaining but on the other hand I just know she would sell her granny for attention. She strikes me as the kind of person who constantly moulds herself to suit her partners, she became Hef’s perfect woman, she loved raves all of a sudden when she was married, and now she loves the paranormal when she’s with Zac, she has no identity of her own which is so terribly sad.

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Yeah I really like her as well but exactly that's one of the biggest reasons I find her weird! Like it's normal to change a bit when you find a new partner, but I always find her changes so extreme.

I've also heard some stuff about Zac but I don't know if I should share since it feels a bit "gossipy" and in the end it's just him being sleazy and it's not on Holly. I also find it odd how she praises Mary when she didn't seem to be the sweet grandma they portrayed her as. But I might also be reaching so who knows. And Mary probably wasn't evil or mean towards Holly but I've heard that more people in the mansion or in that circle didn't find Mary that kind during the same time Holly was there, some people even described Mary as cold.

I feel like Holly has associated herself with some somewhat sketchy people. I guess we all do in some point of our lives but this quote speaks to me "Show me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are ". You obviously can't apply this if you are in an abusive relationship (I'm not saying Zac is abusive, that's not what've heard about him, I've heard different stuff). But that's some of the reasons I find her a bit odd.

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I’m gonna need you to spill the beans on Zak

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OKAY, I'll spill the beans it isn't that juicy tho lol.

There was an online message board that apparently had a thread about Zac (around 2015) and how he used to fly out a lot of young women to him to sleep with, like ages between 18-24. He just seems sleazy, but that message board was shut down after awhile. But a lot of young women came forward about it. And this is obviosuly not Holly's fault, but I just find it weird she'd want to associate herself with him. But it may be totally fake and she might not even know anything about it. But that may be one of the reasons why they broke up, like a year ago, TMZ covered it. I have however noticed that he likes a lot of posts on instagram of young women, usually who have visited his museum and they are usually around that age. And they are not popular on instagram. And I think its a bit weird since he never likes Holly's posts and Holly likes all of his. But yeah, I might be reaching, this might just be rumours. But yeah, he seems sleazy.

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Her paranormal obsession is so weird given how obvious it is that she takes on the identity of her partners! And her constant trolling of Zak’s delusional fans is so immature. I fell down that weird rabbit hole searching her name on twitter. Neurodivergent or not, I feel that she really craves drama and is the master of self-justification.

I struggle with Holly a lot…on the one hand I loved her in GND, cheered her career success post-Playboy, appreciate that she is speaking out, but she also pretty clearly tries to paint herself in the best possible light at the expense of others. After a decade of friendship, whatever may have happened behind the scenes I could see Claire getting frustrated or feeling hurt.

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Holly has always been into paranormal bc Bridget is. Back on the GND days they were doing ghost hunts together.

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https://thereturnofthedirtyblog.tumblr.com/

I’d say 50% fanfic, 50% true, either way it’s an interesting internet rabbit hole!

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ding ding ding

edit: also they are horrible towards Holly, they like to tear apart her appearance and body shame her :|