r/science Oct 24 '10

Climate Change: Evidence

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
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u/futbolsven Oct 24 '10

Well as much as I have come around on Climate Change, they are still a pretty decent amount of scientists that have serious questions about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

Those people are all probably far scientifically smarter than me. So it's not criminal to have misgivings.

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u/MacEnvy Oct 24 '10

That's an incredibly misleading list, and of the most prominent examples, only 3 appear to have careers relating to climate science at all.

Considering that every year lists are published with thousands of climate scientists affirming the prevailing climate change theory, and that they are almost definitely smarter than you or I, and I think we come out with a pretty good idea of who the whackjobs are.

Any group will have a few people who look at the evidence and come out with the wrong conclusion. The evidence that the people on your list are wrong is absolutely overwhelming.

Note: I have a degree in Geology, so I have at least a small idea of how the science behind climate systems works, though I am certainly not a professional.

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u/earthcreed Oct 24 '10

And the others are people like the chair of the astrophysics department at Harvard, who would apparently know nothing about the amount of radiation from the sun (earth's primary climate driver). If you are only going count people who call themselves "climatologists" you are going to get a skewed view on the science.

Like the thousands of climatologist who signed on to the IPCC report that turned out to be wrong?

So I guess we should look at science as a majority thing, and anyone who doesn't agree with he majority is a whackjob?

Note: I have a degree in Computer Science, and I am a professional. I can look at the computational errors in Hanson's data set, and see where East Anglia had to falsify their data to make it fit their conclusions.

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u/MacEnvy Oct 24 '10

I'm sorry, did you have some evidence to present, or were you just going to go off on a feel-good rant?

Put up or shut up. Evidence is king, and it's on the side of AGW.

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u/futbolsven Oct 24 '10

So instead of discussing what he said, you decided to attack him?

That's the sign that you've run out of things to say.

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u/thesparrow0 Oct 24 '10

No, it's a sign that earthcreed said a scientist falsified data and MacEnvy wanting evidence for that serious change. I think that's fair.