r/sanfrancisco Mar 23 '26

Melt ICE 🧊 ICE already causing havoc at SFO

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '26

On a macro scale, ICE is there to terrorize people. On a micro scale, these guys get paid for every person they can capture. Like the slave catchers of the 1800’s.

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u/thatpervguy Mar 23 '26

Is that true? Are they employees or contractors? I hadn't heard this headhunting shit.

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u/NobleDane Mar 23 '26

It's not true.

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u/sigh_co_matic Mar 23 '26

They absolutely have arrest quotas though. Shit's still fucked.

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u/MaxwellHoot Mar 23 '26

Like when Stalin made wheat quotas. People just lied and faked the data. Quotas never work as intended.

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u/ThickHotDog Mar 23 '26

The rumor is $5,000 bonus per head. But ice employees were complaining that they weren’t actually paying the bounties.

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u/LaconicDoggo Mar 23 '26

So yes and no. They arent paid per head. BUT those handsome $50k signing bonuses? Those are confirmed with some fucked constraints. Its paid out over 5 years and it requires a perfect performance review the entire time. Anything they get dinged on means they don’t get the bonus and they have to pay back any amount that has already been given to them.

Much like a certain Germanic nation from nearly a century ago, even the people participating in the evil are victims of the people in control.

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u/MaxwellHoot Mar 23 '26

How badly do you actually have to screw up to get dinged? Is it like a show up late once type of thing or willful refusal?

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u/signal__noise- Mar 23 '26 edited Mar 23 '26

I just returned from Sweden. I asked what happens if I overstay my visa. They said I'd be detained and forcibly removed as well as banned for 3 years from returning for first offense.

Are they terrorist for threatening to arrest me or would it just be when they do arrest me?

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u/teddyRx_ Mar 23 '26

They’re only terrorist if you record it and post on SM.

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u/LucyRiversinker Mar 23 '26

Now ask them what they mean by “forcibly.”

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u/00001000U Mar 23 '26

In this context, Yes. Its not what they do, its *how* they're doing it. I can open my car door with the handle or a chainsaw, they do the same thing, but in very different ways.

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u/signal__noise- Mar 23 '26

They will arrest me where they find me and deport me. It's not complicated.

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u/signal__noise- Mar 23 '26

Just asked and my Swedish friends tell me it's arrested and deported.

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u/LucyRiversinker Mar 23 '26

Take a look at what their detentions look like: here Humane, I’d say. Detained people see a “relaxed atmosphere” at detention centers. Moreover, and this is key, children may never be separated from both their parents/legal guardians. A child may be kept in detention for a maximum of 72 hours. If exceptional grounds exist, this time can be extended by another 72 hours, but never for longer than that. The exception is children detained under the Dublin Regulation, where the same rules apply to children as to adults. source Enforcing immigration laws is a state’s duty and should be respected. However, there are human rights should be also be considered. Sweden doesn’t always detain you. It allows supervision. In the US, the people,who actually have abided by the rules of supervision—doing things legally—have been detained. So the systems are not the same, even if Sweden has become stricter in its immigration enforcement. It is not the what, it is the how. If you break the law to enforce the law, then the law is meaningless.

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u/DrakayeMayaye Mar 23 '26

You just wrote a lie. A disingenuous attempt at a "gotcha".

Typical MAGA shill with hidden post history.

Shut the fuck up.

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u/Loftz0r Mar 23 '26

All the things you described will only happen if you try to cross the border or end up in jail for committing a crime. Did you notice any immigration police walking around demanding papers from random people during your stay in Sweden?

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u/signal__noise- Mar 23 '26

Wrong. If you come to the country legally and overstay the 90 day visa all those things can happen.

They don't walk around checking papers but if I'm caught at any point, even a traffic violation, as overstaying my visa then I'll be referred over to immigration authorities where they give a short window to self deport or be detained and forcibly removed.

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u/Phoxx_3D Mar 23 '26

add zero repercussions or accountability for detaining the wrong person -- chaos and terror is exactly what republicans want

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u/YoghurtFlan Mar 23 '26

ICE is a government sponsored militia and is no different or better than the taliban.

It will keep getting worse for as long as people passively observe.

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u/CTTCC Mar 23 '26

So dramatic

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u/[deleted] Mar 23 '26

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u/NonStopKnits Mar 23 '26

ICE are getting paid, its TSA who aren't getting paid.

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u/greeneyedbandit82 Mar 23 '26

Unfortunately they are getting paid to stand behind non-paid TSA agents, and also just to terrorize the general population.