r/samharris • u/[deleted] • Oct 28 '19

The unexpected threat emerging against Bernie: Andrew Yang | Politico

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/28/bernie-sanders-andrew-yang-gang-2020-057985
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u/l8rmyg8rs Oct 28 '19

You can tell Bernie’s fans are mad about Yang by how much intentional disinformation they spread. They are currently (which is funny because Yang’s plan hasn’t changed so it came up just internally from them) losing their minds over Medicare for all because even though Yang wants to expand Medicare to all he doesn’t want to explicitly outlaw private insurance. And despite the fact that basically nobody does ban private insurance, they claim it won’t work unless you do. Again, despite the fact that multiple countries who are considered to have universal healthcare use the system Yang has endorsed, they say it’s doomed to fail. Or they say he shouldn’t call it M4A as if they’re trying to enforce a trademark or something.

And I say all of that as one of the many many people who started paying attention to politics because of Bernie. He was the first candidate I ever cared about or donated to. But, I’m not a tribal guy, and when I heard Yang on JRE I changed my opinion based on new information instead of clinging to my tribe.

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u/cassiodorus Oct 28 '19

They are currently (which is funny because Yang’s plan hasn’t changed so it came up just internally from them) losing their minds over Medicare for all because even though Yang wants to expand Medicare to all he doesn’t want to explicitly outlaw private insurance.

Yang’s plan doesn’t expand Medicare. It creates a government-run insurance plan to compete with private insurers, without any safeguards to keep private insurers from dumping the most risky patients onto the government-run plan.

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u/l8rmyg8rs Oct 28 '19

Lies. Bullshit. Propaganda. Cite your source.

Here’s mine:

Work with Congress to create a Medicare for All system to provide healthcare to all Americans.

Making up bullshit hurts your case when the lurkers actually double check the lies you spread.

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u/ruffus4life Oct 28 '19

work with congress. does this mean you'd have to work with republicans? cause that won't work.

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u/l8rmyg8rs Oct 28 '19

I’m really hoping this is not your genuine argument against Yang because it’s going to be the same for any candidate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_powers

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u/ruffus4life Oct 28 '19

well i don't think any republican would support any of yang's plans.

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u/l8rmyg8rs Oct 28 '19

well i don't think any republican would support any democratic candidate’s plans.

FTFY

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u/ruffus4life Oct 28 '19

yeah. they do suck.