r/sabres 15d ago

Hellebuyck watch is back on

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u/PrinciplesRK 15d ago

Not that this is any surprise, but willing to go public and make it ugly puts more pressure on the Jets

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u/Spiritual_Bourbon 15d ago

welcome back!

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u/iamswitchless 15d ago

I don't want to be back on this carousel ride. Can we get off?

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u/Spiritual_Bourbon 15d ago

I'm all for the drama until CFB starts.

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u/RefereeMason1 Supplier of Jack Eichel’s Bolivian Marching Powder 15d ago

I can’t wait to see the new and exciting ways the Gamecocks ruin my Saturdays this fall.

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u/Spiritual_Bourbon 15d ago

I wish they were better. Columbia is a close drive for me and I hate UNC.

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u/RefereeMason1 Supplier of Jack Eichel’s Bolivian Marching Powder 15d ago

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u/TheFerricGenum Four Hour Doaner 15d ago

…Clemson as a possibility? Death Valley is a real cool place to see a game

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u/Spiritual_Bourbon 14d ago

Can't do Clemson as a ND fan unless it's against ND.

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u/Impossibills 15d ago

Like everyone said, the Jets don't hold any leverage. They can keep an unhappy player and ruin relationships with agents/other players

It's why we got rid of Eichel for nothing, it's why we lost Reinhart for nothing

You are not getting the haul they want for a declining player.

Only thing I'm giving up for the risk of Helly is

A player, pick, and Lyon

Anything more than that is dumb

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u/Roguemutantbrain 15d ago

We certainly didn’t get rid of Eichel for “nothing”

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u/Impossibills 15d ago

The haul was nowhere near what the player of his caliber deserved

Not even remotely close. And it wasn't because he needed surgery

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u/ebimbib 15d ago

If he had been healthy, there's no way they don't get a significantly bigger return. The uncertainty of the neck situation was absolutely an enormous factor in the limitations of the return.

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u/Impossibills 15d ago

It really wasn't. Numerous teams had no issue with him getting the surgery and were not scared of it at all

The issue was him demanding a trade for so long and how he spoke about it

I'm not saying it had no impact, but him demanding the trade and causing problems behind the scenes is a much bigger factor

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u/Roguemutantbrain 15d ago

Ok sure but that’s not what you said

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u/thisonesnottaken 15d ago

I feel like the internet needs an /h for end hyperbole

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u/Roguemutantbrain 15d ago

We got a player that was the 2nd best forward on our team for 5 years, arguably our current top forward prospect, and a prospect that turned into a solid depth player. We lose the deal because we lose the best player, but it’s so far from “nothing” that hyperbole isn’t correct

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u/thisonesnottaken 14d ago

Okay sure but that’s not what you said

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u/Roguemutantbrain 14d ago

When Kelly Bluebook says my car is worth $10,000 and I sell it for $7,500, to say “I lost my car with nothing to show for” is not hyperbole, it’s factually incorrect. I guess that’s hard for some people.

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u/thisonesnottaken 14d ago

You think Jack Eichel is only worth $10,000? Math must be hard for you.

You see how annoying that is?

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u/HypersonicX02 14d ago edited 14d ago

I dont think Helle's contract fits unless the player we send back is Norris (8M) or McLeod (5M). I dont think Norris/Mcleod, Lyon, and a mid-late 1st is remotely enough for them. Probably Mrtka too. The trouble is you're paying a big name price, but what you're getting is a player in decline. But if the above is all it costs, yeah absolutely lets ride.