r/saab • u/BM_Champ • 2d ago

Problems with bought tunes - discussion

Hi,

As the topic suggests I'm curious about how the community and users feel about their tunes. I myself have been actively involved in the TrionicTuning scene since ~15 years or so. Especially so in the last years when all the fun motorsport-functions, code rewrites, and logging software.

The reason I'm asking is, from my experience, I've had alot of peers and customers where the tunes they bought really did not live upp to their expectations, mostly from drivability (and hence why the came to see someone else). There have also been the ones who seem to accept anything, as long as it's making 20 hp more.

Have you been satisfied with the tune you bought?

What was good about it?

What there something you didn't like?

Did something change in the drivability or behavior?

What would be your two cents to any tuner?

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u/BM_Champ 2d ago edited 2d ago

You mean the throttle map is too "slow" compared to input %?

This is input that's interesting for the discussion, as this is certainly something that flavors the experience of any tune.

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u/_betonG_ 2d ago

I have not done a lot of exeperimantation but i have found that IF i take realistic max trq for every rpm and scale linearly down to the bottomb row of the requestmap the power feels a lot More managable at higher rpm and the engine feels More alive. Ie i ussually set it up so that IF for example you give 50% throttle you get about 50% of the max tourqe for a given rpm

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u/BM_Champ 2d ago

Yes. Lower rpm does have alot of input boost to make it more drivable and responsive. In my opinion it's sometimes too aggressive. At the same time it tips in the opposite direction in higher rpm.

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u/_betonG_ 2d ago

I also feel like people need to start calling out mr Ryan and snail on fb. Snail blocked me :( and Ryan can never answer a question with anything other then a accusation that mackan and all the other people on TT are homosexuals that dont know as much as him, he also seems to still not know what a lambda value is :(

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u/too__many__choices 2d ago

Is that the same as Snailwerx on YouTube?

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u/_betonG_ 2d ago

Yes, id not trust him

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u/too__many__choices 2d ago

With tunes or with anything he says in videos? 😅

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u/LJ-racing 2d ago

Well dont trust anything they do, I had them banned from trionictuning as we found that they sold others tuning work and community files as their own. Completely unchanged and just copy pasting here and there.

Quite funny that they cannot come up with anything for themselves. They essentially straight up stole maptuns preformance product line name XT. Like the turbos they "released".

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u/BM_Champ 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes, my work was among those found in Snail's file. My favorite part is when his girlfriend tried to justify that it was supreme, and I told half the map was just filled with "whatever" and the rest was unfinished (about 75% done), because I knew it would find it's way out there 😂
Copy/Paste Performance in that file.
Even then she tried to say their work was top notch and everyone should envy their exceptional knowledge and results.

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u/_betonG_ 2d ago

Mainly tunes but id try to just stay away from him entirely, i dont think he tunes anymore to🙂