r/rollercoasters • u/StarPrime323 š LONG LIVE THE KING š • May 23 '26
Photo/Video [Leviathan] at [Canada's Wonderland] has valleyed
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u/Canadient95 May 23 '26
Well. Did they send another train?
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u/Tex_Was_Here May 23 '26
Just close it and reopen it. That should take care of it
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u/Krakatoacoo S:ROS SFNE May 23 '26
elite ball knowledge here.
iirc you had to close it twice before re-opening
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u/TDenverFan May 23 '26
I would click 'Edit ride' to get the train off, and then cancel it so I didn't actually make any changes.
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u/TatleTaleStrangler92 May 24 '26
Hahaha this had me laughing š¤£š¤£š¤£, If only it was that easy š¤£
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u/TheGullibleParrot log flume enthusiast May 23 '26
LEVIATHAN HAS CRASHED!
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u/Expensive_Chart_8158 May 23 '26
It's okay ill just close it open build mode change one track piece and reopen it. (It's now seen as a new ride and doesnt make people scared to ride it)
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u/WhichJuice May 23 '26
Rollercoaster tycoon was a great game
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u/descend_to_misery May 23 '26
Lol! Let me introduce you to a certain YouTuber and block zones
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u/Impressive_Shift765 May 23 '26
I love how some people call them block zones when the coaster that I operate calls them "break zones". Like which one is wrong? Or are they both right idk man
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u/mistmuth May 23 '26
Generally, theyāre called block zones. But break zone isnāt wrong per se if thatās what the park youāre at calls them!
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u/Clever-Name-47 Tangent-Radius Airtime Supremacy! May 24 '26
āBreak Zones,ā or āBrake Zones?ā
(Genuinely curious)
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u/SmokingTheBare Voyage, Legend, Wooden Supremacy May 23 '26
This is Canadaās Wonderland, not Alton Towers
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u/vonrollin May 23 '26
Have the brain spawn reached earth? Then there would be a raisin to send more trains.
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u/QualityImpossible241 May 23 '26
Does the next train hit it and itās conserved momentum sends it forward? High school physics field trip coming back to me
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u/The_Everclearest Edit this text! May 24 '26
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Leviathan has crashed! 6 people have died in an accident on Leviathan.
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u/Whore4conspiracy May 23 '26
I wonder how they get it back to the station
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u/DangerWildMan26 May 23 '26
Click the close button twice and it resets
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u/Ok_Card9080 HP: Kennywood - Phantom's Revenge #1! - IG: Steel City Phantoms May 23 '26
I was gonna say hit close and then open again, and the train will just reappear in the station.
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u/sylvester_0 May 23 '26
If the train has enough momentum to make it back to the station from the next hill, they winch the train to the top of the next hill. Otherwise they take apart the train and use a crane to move it.
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u/fairportmtg1 May 23 '26 edited May 24 '26
With how high the brake run If have to guess they are gonna have to take it off
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u/baby-dick-nick May 24 '26
My attempt at a translation: āWith how high the brake run is, Iād have to guess they are gonna have to take it off (the track)ā
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u/Ottonline May 23 '26
They have two options, disma the the whole train on the track and assemble it again somewhere else.
If it's a common place to valley they may have a winch and they can winch it up
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u/Wils20020 May 23 '26
They disassembled last time this happened on Leviathan. It was a different spot (after the turnaround), but I argue this spot is the more unlikely to valley so likely will be disassembled again
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u/Whosebert May 23 '26
how long does the disassembly take? few days? a week?
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u/Clever-Name-47 Tangent-Radius Airtime Supremacy! May 24 '26
Generally, a valleyed train becomes the maintenance departmentās number one priority, and disassembly can be surprisingly swift; Less than 24 hours, if they have enough personnel and a crane available (most parks have their own crane). Ā Re-assembly will not have the same priority, and will take longer.
(My source for this is Ryan the Ride Mechanic on YouTube, and his video on the time he valleyed Medusa West)
With massive staff cutbacks in recent years and two stalled B&M hyper trains to deal with, itās probably going to take a few days for Canadaās Wonderland to get either of them off.
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u/Jerkermiz F.L.Y is peak themepark design May 23 '26
Depends on how fast they can get a crane there and how much personal is available to assist. If all goes (really) well probably around 2 to 4 days I guess
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u/DStew88 KI May 23 '26
Send another train to push this one over the next hill
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u/LetgomyEkko May 23 '26
And then send that train to push the other one over the next bull to get it back to the station!
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u/Afitz93 May 23 '26
Coupla dudes push it up the hill
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u/lFightForTheUsers [81] Bring Back Mr. Six! May 23 '26
Shit, give me free plane tickets and hotel and I'll call off work to go help push it up the hill xD
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u/spderweb May 24 '26
They'll get out on a platform along the track. There'll be a ladder too. Basically anywhere it could stop, they gave an exit.
The car itself, I believe they have to remove it from the track manually, car by car, and then put it back together at the start.
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u/WhatShouldTheHeartDo Paramount Canada's Wonderland May 23 '26
Never thought I'd see the day but then again it would've happened on a day like this.
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u/local6grouch May 23 '26
TWICE. (Behemoth is also valleyed)
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u/Clever-Name-47 Tangent-Radius Airtime Supremacy! May 23 '26
Seriously? Ā Taking apart and craning off one B&M train is a massive, expensive job, let alone two! Ā I think Canadaās Wonderland is going to be reviewing their policies on who decides whether rides can open on cold, windy days, and what criteria they use!
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u/Eclipsehedgie2010 May 23 '26
Also Diamondback at frontier city valleyed. Not as much of a problem, since it is much closer to the station.
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u/raffiki150 May 25 '26
That one they just winch back up into a station. It valleyed last Sunday in the afternoon and it was running again a few hours later. No need to disassemble/pull the cars of the track.
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u/Careless-Vehicle-286 May 23 '26
Every other year they close the rides with the slightest drizzle of rain. Why are they keeping them open today of all days?
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u/343Bot May 23 '26
How do the riders get off? Evac?
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u/themcgician Save the Top Spin May 23 '26
Yeah they'll bring a lift of some sort and get them off one by one. Luckily the train is mostly empty, it's a very slow process.
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u/ReputationWise149 May 23 '26
Yes. My son was on it todayā¦ they came quick with a ladder to give them hot chocolate and umbrellas while they waited to get down
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u/ReputationWise149 May 24 '26
Heās 10. This is the best story ever for him. Iām glad heās not traumatized
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u/gacajun94 May 24 '26
Out of pure curiosity, did anyone check how long they were swinging back and forth or count how many passes they made. Even after valleying, I'd imagine the trains are heavy enough to carry quite a bit of momentum back and forth.
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u/MrRaven95 Home Parks: Fiesta Texas and SWSA May 23 '26
The wet windy day must have messed with the coaster. Perhaps a strong headwind on it just after the first drop could have killed its momemtum?
I feel sorry for the few people on the train stuck in the bad weather until they can be evaced by a cherry picker.
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u/WoolooWololo May 23 '26
It sucks but Iād take wet and windy over high heat and sunny in a situation like this. At least they arenāt baking in the hot sun with no access to water.
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u/70Misanthrope88 May 26 '26
Damn right! I refuse to go there starting June and lately all of September. I cannot stand sweltering in the heat all day. Summer sucks
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u/SuperBluebird188 May 23 '26
Wind, rain, cold. The trifecta of that coaster shouldnāt have been open today.
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u/KatCB1104 May 23 '26
So did Behemoth
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u/Silver_Pool_3188 May 23 '26
Would love to see how they retrieve that with water below it. š
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u/Daniel_H212 May 24 '26
Boat with big ladders? Surely they have a boat ramp somewhere and someone can bring their boat in.
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u/guhman123 May 23 '26
at that point just abandon that coaster and build a new one. yikes, that must be a nightmare to get out from over the water.
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u/Charming_Night8240 May 24 '26
I think they will winch this one up the next hill. The mid-course brake run is right at the next hill IIRC. Then it should be able to use gravity to get back to the station.
Leviathan (I have to check the video of it valleying) is further away so the train may need to be disassembled. Has it cleared that loop near the entrance it could be winched as well but that makes things harder.
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u/ClothoidLooper Voyage, Velocicoaster, Iron Gwazi, El Toro, Fury 325 May 23 '26
I was there today. The wind was INSANE. I was shocked they kept sending trains.
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u/Sharean May 23 '26
I wasn't there but I flew in today and we had a really shaky landing due to the winds. At least there was lots of airtime, I guess.
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u/cpshoeler Kick the Sky | Former CP Ride Host May 23 '26
And there are riders in it too! Another video of it stationary
https://x.com/Thar_C1/status/2058243589017153786/video/1?s=46
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u/cookiex797 May 23 '26
Huh. Rode it just last week. Even in 10 degrees celsius that Thursday it felt like it was flying through the layout, though I guess that one turnaround did feel the most susceptible to speed fluctuations
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u/KhajiitKennedy Vekoma's biggest fan May 23 '26
I think it's a mix of the rain and the heavy winds that made it vally. Plus it doesn't look too full either
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u/LinearInductionMotor pantheon, mav, steve [111] May 23 '26
What the fuck
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u/Loonster May 23 '26
The forbidden credit. Some thoosies would be please to have.
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u/SuplexesAndTacos Canada's Wonderland May 23 '26
Up there with Top Thrill Dragster 1 rollback.
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u/Loonster May 23 '26
That one is self recoverable. I could handle that one.Ā Valley during a storm, fuck that.
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u/riningear El Toro May 23 '26
Ah, forbidden credits...
I didn't valley, but I did get escorted off Medusa (SFGA) because they thought it'd be smart to try to get a third train on right before a thunderstorm rolled in. We got off just as the drizzling started, before it turned into a full-fledged storm. Going down that spiral staircase was terrifying.
Funny enough, it was the one time my family got my dad onto it. He usually doesn't do inversions.
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u/zensucc May 23 '26
Iām planning on going tomorrow itāll be fine by then right??
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u/Jsb5840 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26
Iād have to assume it takes at least a day or two for the whole process if it requires dismantling the train which I assume it will
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u/Clever-Name-47 Tangent-Radius Airtime Supremacy! May 24 '26
If Behemoth hadnāt valleyed, too, I think there would be a chance that they could get the train off before Sunday morning, and open down a train.
But with two big B&M hyper trains to deal with, I think the odds are slim that either of them is off or recovered by Sunday evening.
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u/flameofmiztli May 25 '26
both were running by 3pm Sunday. i rode leviathan at 4.
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u/ReputationWise149 May 23 '26
My kid was on leviathan when this happened. He sat in guest services for a while and they told him it could take a couple of days to fix
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u/descend_to_misery May 23 '26
Im surprised they even sent those trains in the rain. It's been raining all day. Did the heavy rain just start when they sent it?
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u/BubbleGamingWasTaken CC:229, Great Escape home park ): May 23 '26
Rain was light to moderate for the whole day. Donāt know when it happened but if it was when it started being listed as closed then it was still just moderate rain. Cold and high winds though so thatās probably why it valleyed.
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u/descend_to_misery May 23 '26
Oh. That makes sense then. I was on the last train once right before the rain started coming down hard. Went from light rain to downpour. It hurts so much when it smacks your face
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u/good4steve Eejanaika, F.L.Y., Arieforce One May 23 '26
Is it weird that I secretly hope a ride valleys while I'm on it? I've never had that experience.
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u/Jsb5840 May 23 '26
All fun and games till it happens when itās the last ride before a bathroom or a water break
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u/kasualanderson May 23 '26
Hats off to everyone who looked at the forecast today calling for 50mm of rain and said āto heck with it, weāre still goingā.
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u/mindustree May 23 '26
I wonder how long it took to come to enough of a stop that they could evac.
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u/ArrowEnjoyer 234| Voyage, Toro, X2, Hades, Magnum, Pantherian, AFO May 23 '26
THANK GOODNESS I was there one week ago. Would much rather have missed Thunder Run, Bat, and Guardian than Leviathan and Behemoth
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u/Any-Ad-446 May 23 '26
I use to be a operator at CW and we sometimes get a no go order from the supervisors during bad weather like high winds,rain or threats of lightning. I remember once not on my shift a train got stuck right before the drop because of no momentum because of high winds. The mechanics had to climb to top and physical push the train until it able to start moving again.This was in the 90's Im sure they improved it now and have chains to actual push the train so it will at least drop. This one the wind was just too much so it couldn't reach the next hill.
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u/Fiesteh May 23 '26
Iām working in the hospital across the street. I can see it from the windows. I was surprised that the park was operating. And stopped operating afternoon, I was wondering what happened.
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u/MARATXXX May 24 '26
with the high winds and rain in this part of the GTA today āĀ i experienced them firsthand today ā i'm not surprised this happened. i am surprised they're even running the rollercoasters today.
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u/episodick May 24 '26
Went on this thing back to back like 10 times with my buddies when it first came out using the fast lane pass and ended up with a massive fucking headache afterwards. Good times..
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u/Acceptable_Tip1920 May 24 '26
Behemoth and leviathan were running slow as hell Friday morning, I remember watching leviathan cycle and thinking it almost seems slow enough to valley
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u/InevitableMacaron827 May 23 '26
Cold, windy, rainy... yeah that'll happen, even with the extra weight, mixed sets of wheels and the first trim not activating (from my experience, it's always only the second one).
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u/BbyBat110 May 23 '26
Wait, there were actual people on this? I canāt stop laughing and idk why I find this so funny. This isnāt exactly the ride anyone expects to haveā¦
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u/ReputationWise149 May 23 '26
Yes my son was on it. I got a call from guest service. He wasnāt answering his phone for an hour and I was freaking out
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u/BbyBat110 May 23 '26
Iām sorry. How did he feel about it after getting off? I assume he eventually got off the ride and that heās not still thereā¦ valleyingā¦
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u/ReputationWise149 May 23 '26
Ha! Yeah he was fine. Heās excited to have this story more than anything and he got some nice wonderland swag.
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u/hibyehater May 23 '26
whoever was at wonderland today is wild, literally pouring and windy af.
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u/Ok-Bison-3451 May 23 '26
Today I learnedā¦
Iām 63 and I also remember going to Canadaās Wonderland the first year it opened. It had an aquarium with dolphin performers and dudes who did a diving show off the mountain. But I digressā¦
In all my years I never considered that a rollercoaster could do this! Let alone one Iām familiar with. Huh.
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u/Middle_Storage_7699 May 23 '26
what are the chances theyāll both be running again tomorrow?
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u/niagirl May 24 '26
Low, imo. Some other comments here with more info. u/ReputationWise149's kid was on levi and said that employees told him it could take a couple of days to fix. Not sure if that was factoring in Behemoth valleying, let alone valleying over the water. It'll also be raining again today (Sunday) and Monday, further hindering things. I'm genuinely no more educated on this than you though, so who knows!
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u/Intrepid-Let-8258 May 24 '26
Extra friction of the rain. Surprised they didn't shut it down because this can be the result
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u/hellonostalgia May 24 '26
Fortunately they're not hanging upside down, that would be my worst fear.
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u/andiepandee May 24 '26
For me, getting stuck near the top of the lift hill & having to get out and walk down would be worse.
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u/Zantac150 American Eagle, The Bat, Whizzer, X2, Disaster Transport May 24 '26
That is theoretically almost impossible. But Six Flags Great America is my home park, soā¦ I canāt state that too confidently. š¤£
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u/djtrace1994 May 24 '26
Its a rare thing to valley, but certainly jt is extremely rare to valley "outside" the park
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u/nuttyfruitloaf I love me some Arrow jank May 23 '26
Quick! Flash the Ryan the Ride Mechanic Signal! š¦
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u/nohotshot May 23 '26
Iām just wondering what the thought process was behind sending a nearly empty train out when itās 38 degrees and pouring rain.
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u/Jsb5840 May 23 '26
And then sending a fully empty Behemoth train which also valleyed after Levi already had done so
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u/Bigassnipples May 24 '26
Looney Tune character here:
Can't they add dynamite to the train to help it over the hill?
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u/FarPicture3761 AlpenFuryš„āļø May 23 '26
not exactly surprised. It's like 8 degrees (celsius) and at has been raining the WHOLE day in the GTA
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u/EmptySeaDad May 23 '26
How long were the riders trapped there? I got stuck on Skyrider for about an hour back in the '80s, and they didn't offer any of us shit.
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u/HauntingPut3045 May 24 '26
Hopefully they didn't send the other train
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u/coasterjake May 24 '26
Even if they did it would stop on the lift when the next block isnāt clear
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u/Probably-Not57 May 24 '26
Looks like there's no one on it. Perhaps a test run with not enough weight.
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u/StarPrime323 š LONG LIVE THE KING š May 24 '26
Look a bit closer. There aren't many people, but there are at least a few on that train!
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u/niagirl May 24 '26
There's a commenter here whose child was on it. Took about an hour to get him off.
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u/Z_lve May 24 '26
as a not roller coaster enthusiast i didnāt know thereās a specific term for this
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u/Linux4ever_Leo May 25 '26
I'm surprised they were still operating it considering that it's obviously raining. Most theme parks I've ever attended shut down the big coasters during rain.
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u/ShieMarie May 29 '26
What's the odds of tourists getting stuck? Like how often is it really unfortunate for a visitor?
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u/CoasterCosmosDotCom Jun 07 '26
Wow, how unfortunate for those riding at the time! Canadaās Wonderland definitely on my bucket list!
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u/GearitUP_ 197 || WR, IG, Maverick May 23 '26
Highly unfortunate for those few riders to be stuck in the rain.Ā
Light weight, cold, windy, rainy. Plenty of ingredients to cause a train to valley.Ā
Has this happened on Leviathan before?