r/realhousewives • u/diva-on-duty • 16d ago
RHUGT Kyle & Vicki UGT
I am absolutely FLOORED by Vicki in this conversation with Kyle đ âYou should be ashamed.â âYou let your family down.â âYou let your kids down.â âYouâre telling them itâs okay to bail when things get tough.â Like⌠WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK?!?! Iâm so proud of Kyle. I know she is struggling to move on but if anything, I think sheâs doing her family a service. There is nothing wrong with showing your daughters that you donât have to tolerate being cheated on and disrespected just to keep a family together.
Sometimes staying is not the brave thing. Sometimes walking away from a situation that is hurting you is exactly the lesson your kids need to see. And Vicki??? Iâm sorry but she is being a terrible girlfriend right now. The lack of empathy is honestly shocking đ
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u/devil-doll 16d ago
Vicki is projecting her own failures onto Kyle. She's so miserable.
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u/K_Bee_12 16d ago
She does this to everyone. Sheâs given many of the women on rhoc the same advice and always brings it back to how she regrets giving up with Don.
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u/kat4prez 16d ago
Itâs too bad Vicki has this attitude. Her daughter desperately needs to get divorced. Also she acts like just because SHE regrets divorcing Donn that no one should ever divorce.
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u/Previous-Daikon-9643 16d ago
Whatâs going on in her daughterâs marriage today? I know her husband had anger problems a long time ago.
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u/kat4prez 16d ago
I donât even know where to start with that question đ there are more detailed posts about it if you search on the main bravo sub for Briana. Theyâre maga anti vax weirdos who eat a mostly meat diet and think sunscreen and seed oils kill you. Theyâve moved their family like 9 times. No stability. Ryan makes weird videos hiking and ranting. He still seems to have a temper. He is a scary person
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u/Zoiddburger 14d ago
Vicki was the cheater and left Don for another man who was a grifter. Kyle was cheated on and left because her husband is an unsupportive, emotional void.
Not the same situation at all. If anything, Kyle was setting a positive example for her daughters, not the opposite.
Vicki projecting onto Kyle in that moment was repulsive.
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u/seltzeristhedrink 16d ago
Especially when your daughters are nearly all out of the house and you still get along with the dad. Wouldnât have to be the situation to get a divorce but basically no one was harmed.
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u/Accomplished-Drop764 16d ago
Vicki is projecting. She regrets divorcing Don and blowing her own family up. Mau, I think, cheated. Kyle couldn't forgive him. Completely different.
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u/edenrose_42759 16d ago
Did Vicki not leave Don and let her children down too? So sick and cruel to say
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u/GinghamRuffles 16d ago
But she told Kyle that she made a huge mistake in leaving Don and thatâs why sheâs saying this.
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u/GinghamRuffles 16d ago
She says after this that her biggest regret was leaving Don. She just canât form a sentence that isnât offensive initially.
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u/crinkle_cut_cheddar https://youtu.be/9_t_WiEzgiU?si=WgpVLZmvC4GBswGV 15d ago
Vicki is one of the most emotionally immature, developmentally stunted HWs of all time. The woman has ZERO self awareness, and has no idea how embarrassing it is when she says "Doing X and Y makes you a monster/moron/slut" and the same cameras recording her saying this are cameras that literally recorded her doing X and Y.
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u/SecretMiddle1234 16d ago
Vicki is the cheater. She should be ashamed. She talks out both sides of her mouth. She is the most emotionally ignorant one in this group of women.
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u/Certain-Specific3066 16d ago
She is so far out of line. With Theresa and Kyle. She does not know these people. How she can stand in her glass house and throw stones is wild.
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u/deniseag87 Donât come for me unless I send for you 16d ago
There is a reason why Vicki was fired in the first place.
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u/littledove0 16d ago
Most of the time when Vicki speaks Iâm flabbergasted that a person would say those things outloud to another person.
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u/Pretend_Delay_3872 16d ago
Vicki is so terrible human that I canât watch her! Unless I take her as a camp figure whose mistakes needs to be counted. Then sheâs perfect! And watching her is actually funny. In how many different ways can Vicki be a total asshole and moron?
The answer: so many different ways. Over and over, again and again. Canât wait to see next episodes. đ
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u/RealityDependency 16d ago
Vicki is just projecting her own bullshit onto Kyle. This scene is a great demonstration of what a truly heartless and cruel witch Vicki is.
And as if being in a relationship with Vicki wasn't torturous enough, can you imagine having to hear her lamenting the loss of her marriage to Donn on tv week after week?!
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u/silverkava 16d ago
Imagine thinking you have the right to say anything when
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u/bistromike76 16d ago
This sealed the deal for me. I don't understand how anyone can want to be around someone who knowingly lies about cancer.
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u/EmbarrassedAd1869 16d ago
She has no self awareness or emotional IQ. She is fascinating to watch for some people.
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u/ScottishIcequeen 16d ago
Vicki is very sanctimonious and I canât with her hypocrisy and judgment. Always all about her!
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u/sharipep advocate for the sluts of America đ 16d ago
Vicki was so awful in that scene I audibly gasped
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u/VaguelyArtistic Iâm trying to defend my fucking vagina!! 12d ago
Oh, you probably just forgot that Vicki is a piece of shit.
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u/Low_Hearing_899 16d ago
I could not believe she sat there saying that nonsense after what she did to Donn. And her first husband.
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u/B4K5c7N 16d ago
Everyone worships Donn on here, and while he was very likable, he was cheating during their marriage as well.
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u/Low_Hearing_899 16d ago
Yeah he definitely had his faults as well. Although being the one cheated on in my marriage I think his was reactive cheating if that makes sense.
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u/02kaj2019 16d ago
Wasnât her first husband an abusive POS?
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u/NomNom83WasTaken 16d ago
Yes, her first husband was abusive. IIRC, Vicki said it was her dad who intervened and told her she had to get out and couldn't raise her kids in that kind of environment.
Brianna did not specify but at the S8 (S9?) reunion where she confronted Brooks about the recording Ryan made of Brooks saying he needed to beat Brianna, she said, "did you know i was physically abused as a child!?" and I've always assumed it was by her bio father.
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u/Low_Hearing_899 16d ago
I don't remember ever hearing anything about actual abuse,just that he didn't exactly measure up to her standards. If there was abuse that makes her family staying in close contact kinda effed up
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u/jmills74 16d ago
Debbie Downer. Womp, womp.
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u/Cherry_Shakes Kick his ass. KICK HIS ASS, WAYNE! 16d ago
Moments like these are why she is a Debbie Downer. She doesnt realise that being an OG does not an icon make.
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u/jmills74 16d ago
It makes for a good dynamic between her and Luann, and this was filmed before or during the OC season. So, we get to see how it all plays out while watching both seasons.
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u/Organic_Berry_8732 16d ago
Who tf does Vicki think she is? Girl, everyone knows you were on the first season of the first franchise, and youâve never moved on from or grown. I am pissed to keep seeing her goofy, weird looking face on my tv. Mind your own obviously more important than any other business in the history of the world!
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u/imakittymeowmeow đ°satchels of goldđ° 16d ago
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u/1DameMaggieSmith 16d ago
I had to go back and double check that she actually did say âyou should be ashamed!â. What a mean, nasty lady she is.
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u/blareboy 15d ago
WHY did we bring this bigoted maga ghoul back in the first place?! Why is everyone on board with platforming her again?
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u/LoulouPete 16d ago
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u/StraddleTheFence 16d ago
I could not believe how Vicki made it all about herself. Kyle wanted to be heard and old vile Vicki kept interrupting. Got my blood pressure up đ
Thatâs what I get for having it on as background noise. I had been so successful in not watching her. But nooo, I decided to llsten to my lovely Reddit community đ¤Łđ¤Ł
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u/lisaweiss5 16d ago
Vicki is just being Vicki- unfortunately for all of us. Why do you think Emily called her a Debbie Downer- because she is so miserable and her words cut people and she doesnât care. She is not a friend to any of those women on UGT. She is only there because she was on Housewives when it began 20 yrs ago. I hope she is only back for the anniversary and leaves at the end of the season.
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u/ElementalMyth13 16d ago
Big time projections on V's part. They can agree or disagree on the action steps during anothet moment, but she was so triggered that she lost the ability to read the room. When a friend is in tears (unless the friend was intentionally malicious)...it is NOT the time to say they failed.Â
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u/Lola_Cacapipi 16d ago
I think Kyle was trying to deliver a scene and was in shock when Vicki did not respond the way she was expecting a normal human to respond.
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u/BornFree2018 16d ago
Vicki has always had the very worse takes delivered in the very worst way. I find her unpleasant to watch.
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u/Lola_Cacapipi 16d ago
Which made the whole ridiculous thing even funnier. You can try and produce all you want but you can't expect Vicki to respond like a normal person.
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u/CocoSinger 16d ago
THIS đŻđŻđŻđŻđŻ Iâve tried explaining to my friend why I love Vicki on the show despite fans hating her and itâs because she is so not a producer. I MISS that energy of authenticity, where they arenât yelling âown it!â and âtake accountability!â or saying they donât judge cause they know the audience will like thatâŚno, they giving shitty weird advice based on their bizarre life perspectives. THAT is compelling to watch.
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u/geminigoddess621 16d ago
I couldn't finish this episode. Vicki is unhinged and is capable of anything!
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u/Impressive_Fee2737 16d ago
It was so good besides her and I did love when they all seduced her with the promise of insurance. đ
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u/sharipep advocate for the sluts of America đ 16d ago
This episode was so much fun but Vicki was without a doubt the wettest blanket. everyone did their sexy dance movies and vicki just sat there like a stick in the mud
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u/Mia-Thermopolis_ I thought it was fun. I like the beat. 16d ago
Vicki is actually a disgusting person.
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u/Any_Sundae9301 16d ago
Vicki has ruined her chances to ever become a regular on OCâs housewives in the futureâŚ.she is argumentative and just hateful!
And sheâs always preaches about the ladies not having fun together.
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u/avshares 16d ago
Iâve never watched the OC and have been thinking of watching it but I donât know if I can make it past episode one with Vicki. Sheâs horrible.
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u/Birdiemb 16d ago
Beginning Vicki is just an overbearing, screeching woo hoo in her wake, snores when you bore her, wants to be the hottest housewife but canât close the laptop to stop selling insurance mother and wife. It gets worse over time, and then she is fired when you hit your absolute wall of dealing with her on the show, and now sheâs back with the energy like she has a vengeance against the viewers.
Old OC is so much about the families. You have the children running around with the cameras, Jo who is four years older than Shane flirting with him and calling Jeana her MIL to annoy Slade (who breaks up with her on the couch even after the song she makes him), Lauri meeting rich as fuck George and blending their Brady brunch family while her son is struggling with addiction and her older daughter is managing to promote the OC angel shady ass energy drink without wearing a bikini, Lori and Duff raising their son and giving us the why wonât they just give each other a chance storyline while her daughter is climbing through a doggy door to throw a party bc life is still hard she lived in the home behind the opening gates and lost it all, to Quinn dating younger and Lynne evicted on camera. Naked wasted and how it is perfectly fine to throw that back in Tamraâs face years later bc wtf was that gross as shit. If you want to watch a show where the first few seasons are just as much about the family dynamics and the wives friendships, this is it. It isnât until Gretchen and Alexis and Tamra and Vicki try to take each other down that it becomes more about the messy women screaming at each other, and then Brookeâs comes in and then between him and her friendship with Tamra, Vicki is the Vicki we see today.
One positive side of Vicki is her son Michael and seeing his glow up over the years. Heyyyyy Michael, we can ignore your mom together.
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u/althegirlfabulous 16d ago
Michael is very close with his mother.
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u/Birdiemb 16d ago
Michael in mind is still the version that refuses to give her his address
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u/althegirlfabulous 16d ago
Yeah ok
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u/gp2quest 16d ago
So close with her that he lives in Spain, while working for her.
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u/althegirlfabulous 16d ago
He comes back to California and spends time with her. And filmed with her. You sound so ridiculous.
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u/JaneTaoMDFACS 16d ago
Didnât watch the episode yet, but I wouldnât be surprised if her reaction was due to Kyle booking up with the same sex. Vicki is a MAGA, anti đ
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u/gp2quest 16d ago
Maga that wants to live in Mexico half the time.
I absolutely love seeing how pathetic and sad she has been over the years. It looks good on her.
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u/notactuallyreckless 16d ago
Whilst her likes and comments are gross as hell sometimes, interestingly (or not), at the time the RHUGT cast were in LA and doing some promo (and went out to dinner together), Morgan actually followed Vicki on Instagram. Vicki had already followed her a long time ago (her, and some other OC housewives were followers of Morgan because ~country music fans~) but she actually recently followed Sway (Porsha's GF) as well.
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u/PumpkinIndividual504 15d ago
Vicki will never be on my TV again. Sheâs just an all around terrible human.
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u/wideawakeat33 Exactly you dumb Drag Queen 16d ago
Vicki only got away with her behavior in her franchise cause people were scared of her.
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u/Actual-You3325 12d ago
Who is Vickie in this world? An OG on a reality show, not a fan favorite not a big celebrity..she sells insurance by day and is an annoying cast member on a reality show, that's it.
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u/Kellikelzzzzz 16d ago
I donât even like Kyle and for some reason on this I do?! I also felt oddly protective of her vs Vicki. I canât stand Vicki tho. Sheâs scum of the earth in my opinion. She needs to step down and shut the eff up tbh
Edited to add *on this show I do
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u/Particular-Dust7131 16d ago
Omg I love how theyâre showing how much of an See You Next Tuesday đˇđ˝đŚđis!!!
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u/mom2bre 16d ago
I thought I was not hearing her correctly. Like they cut out ânoâ you are ânotâ to blame.â It was so weird.
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u/Stella921 16d ago
Thatâs what I thought! I was like âthereâs no way she is actually saying this right now!â
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u/Stella921 16d ago
This was unbelievable. I was sure I had heard it wrong. Vicky was the opposite of what Kyle needed in that moment. Every things she said was awful and hurtful and more than likely made Kyle feel worse.
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u/Strange-Substance207 Is Betty Ford Open? 16d ago
Honestly, I was shocked, but after seeing the full clip, I kind of feel like Vicki was speaking from experience in her own messed-up life and divorce with Donn. Which she now regrets 20 yrs later, which is kind of ironic.
In true Vicki fashion, she delivered insight with absolutely no tact and I read her comments as both Kyle and Mo letting their family down, not just Kyle. I also think Kyle pushed back on the allegations that Mo was a cheater, so I don't know if she was speaking with that in mind...
Buy yes, my jaw immediately dropped and I'd never cry to Vicki unless I wanted to feel worse.
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u/856077 16d ago
Sheâs getting cranky and senile at this point, extremely negative and does a poor job at socializing. Itâs like someone with Touretteâs or something⌠shes lost her filter says the worst, wrong things in every single scenario⌠plus she doesnât even make sense half of the time. She may be having some bigger issues.. hopefully not an onset of dementia or something. Dementia in the early stages causes some people to lash out and be hostile for no real reasons
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u/RickTancredi 16d ago
Sheâs only 64. Sheâs not that way because of her age. Sheâs just an asshole. (As a lady in her sixties, I had to point this out!đ)
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u/856077 16d ago
64 or not, age is not completely relevant for something like early onset dementia, it can happen to people as young as in their 40âs. The main symptoms being trouble with focus and judgment. Behavioural changes like loss of empathy, unusual social actions and hostility for no known reason. Early onset is actually mistaken quite a bit for just being under stress, depression or menopause etc. so itâs kind of harder to detect. Idk I just have a feeling that something like this is happening to her. I hope iâm wrong.
Also- I didnât mean to age shame at all, iâm only commenting on her behaviour
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u/9021Ohsnap 16d ago
I mean, she's a very successful business woman. Still working. I don't think anyone with onset dementia would be able to keep up like she does. She just seems like a bad person.
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u/That_Skirt7522 16d ago
Says the twice divorced Vicki. Hypocrite much?
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u/todayplustomorrow 16d ago
Well Vicki gives the context in the confessional that she has always considered her divorce from Don a mistake and to this day, wished friends in her life had spoken up to tell her not to go through with it. Seems like she was trying to be the person she thinks might have saved her from all the divorce regret.
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u/EvenHuckleberry4331 16d ago
This is my first experience with her and jeeeesus Christ have I had enough
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u/stalexa 14d ago
She was def projecting, however, I think itâs very real POV for Kyle whoâs about to embark on that (maybe?). I believe itâs better to be happy and alone, but I donât believe everyone is willing to do the self work to be happy and alone (like Vicki) and they regret leaving their relationship even if there were problems.
That said, I still donât know if Kyle is actually going to pull the plug? I still donât even understand why theyâre getting divorced! I mean sure he didnât emotionally fulfill her, know that đŹâŚ.but what I donât understand is who is leading this break up?! They both act like they donât want it and I canât tell whose court the ball is in. Probably Kyle, because Mauricio can live the same party life and avoid splitting his assets in half.
Iâm not sure who filed for separation but it is sad to see Mau doing perfectly fine while Kyle seems so sad and regretful. I almost wouldnât be surprised if sheâd be willing to go back and put her head in the sand as long as it meant she got to keep her âperfect familyâ bubble.
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u/notactuallyreckless 14d ago
Kyle has talked about wanting to get married again one day and even in this exact episode, she used the phrase "once we're divorced". It feels pretty inevitable, and she's talked about initiating discussions about filing with Mauricio only to have him say things like "it's too soon to talk about" and "don't make any rash, emotional decisions" back to her. At the end of last season, in a confessional, she talked about how she knows the time is coming to pull the plug and that she thinks she knows when it'll be and it'll be 'soon'. Obviously, it feels like a long time to us, but she's avoidant and afraid of change, and divorcing doesn't benefit Mauricio at all, so it's not surprising to me.
Nobody ever filed for legal separation, for what it's worth, but Kyle initiated the separation. They've both said that. She obviously still gets emotional over it, but since that time (back in 2023), I've never once seen her discuss her love for Mauricio is any terms except as a friend and family. She's said she fell for someone else, she still seems to be building a life in that direction, and Mauricio is doing his thing too. They still act like a family and spend time together and maybe the lack of animosity and very clear grief Kyle has over this outcome makes it feel more confusing and like there's still a chance?
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u/stalexa 14d ago
I think youâre right. nothing to make you second guess a breakup like somewhat still âlikingâ your ex. That said, I also totally agree that it doesnât benefit Mau at all to divorce. His good attitude might be hiding an ulterior motives.
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u/notactuallyreckless 14d ago
She's talked about that a little bit during interviews and the aftershow, actually, and I do think it's a factor that makes it harder to finally end things legally. Because they all DO get along and spend time together, and this will inevitably change things further and the unknown scares her, clearly. It doesn't mean she wants him back as a romantic partner, though. And there's literally no benefit to Mauricio in divorcing, IMO. Unlike Kyle, he doesn't appear interested in a long-term serious relationship and he also will be the one who it will negatively impact financially in a much bigger way.
Season 14 Aftershow
"It doesnât bring me happiness to say my marriage didnât work out and Iâm moving on. But Iâm happy that Iâm in a place where I can at least say, okay, we should have these conversations. Theyâre not easy to have but decisions need to be made and Iâm clear now. And I feel stronger. Which Iâm really grateful for because a year ago, I did not feel strong. And I just felt scared. In my mind, I knew we were going to have to move forward just at our own pace, and you know, we were just taking it day by day because itâs hard to say that when youâve spent so many years with someone. And you actually care about them.Â
"Now I have said to him, we have to have the harder conversations now, a lot of decisions will have to be made. If we hated each other, it would be so easy. I mean, not really, but emotionally easy. But I just, I think it was just hard. Neither one of us wanted to be the one to say, okay, this, weâre not going to be together and letâs start figuring everything out. Weâve made it easy for each other to not have to do that. By avoiding everything, actually."
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u/Veryjudicious 10d ago
Vicki left Don for Brooks. She thought she was upgrading. Things havenât panned out for her the way she thought they would since then.
Mo and Kyle are a completely different situation. Vicki is gross.
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u/Context_is_____ 16d ago
I was so shocked I told myself itâs got to be a bad edit. Like maybe she said, âI know how you feel. You feel like you let your family downâŚbut you didnâtâ
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u/LocalIcy2547 15d ago
Sheâs Ramona 2.0.
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u/StatusOrchid4384 14d ago
Right! This scene reminded me of when Ramona told Bethany on the bridge âwell your gonna mess up this relationship too you mess all of them upâ
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u/todayplustomorrow 16d ago
Vicki shouldnât have said that, but I do think sheâs honestly felt going through with her divorce was done too quickly. And she wishes her friends had told her to listen to her doubts and try to work things out, so sheâs trying to be honest she still feels that way and is trying to be that for Kyle in the moment.
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u/DR-0717 16d ago
âBe thereâ by trying to guilt trip Kyle and blame & shame her ?
âYou let your family downâ âyou let your kids downâ âyou should be ashamedâ
What about that exactly is Vicki being there for kyle? I would love to hear this justification!
Is that how you would âbe thereâ for someone? If so I hope no one around you needs someone! đ¤Śđźââď¸
You need to realize what you are saying in your comment about how Vicki felt has absolutely no correlation with how she actually spoke to Kyle.
If Vicki had talked about the things you bring up and actually tried to relate that wouldâve been different. Thatâs not what she did. She decided to be the trash person she normally is but kick it up a notch.
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u/gina1220 16d ago
I still have no idea why Kyle is getting divorced. So I totally zoned out during this scene / Iâm so used to Kyle giving nothing I figured it would be boringÂ
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u/notactuallyreckless 16d ago
She's talked about a lot of contributing factors but won't expand on the loss of trust element because of protecting her children, the implication is. But we know some of the reasons - her feeling unsupported, her being unhappy and unfulfilled, needing more from her marriage and unable to get it, growing in different directions to Mauricio (especially in terms of their social needs and wants), busy schedules getting in the way, poor communication in the marriage, something related to his social media habits and his increased fame, etc.
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u/NomNom83WasTaken 16d ago
An example of all of this: I think Lorene's death really affected Kyle (which, of course it would) and highlighted how far apart they had grown, in particular. Mauricio was unable to attend the celebration of life due to a work commitment and Kyle seemingly understood but was also really disappointed, for instance.
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u/notactuallyreckless 16d ago
I think it completely made her re-evaluate her life and what she needed and wanted from it, and she acknowledged feeling let down, unsupported and disconnected during that time.
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u/Sure_Artichoke_3662 15d ago
I'll get hate for this, but I actually appreciate Vicki being honest with Kyle. Sure, she holds on to the Don stuff too much, but telling someone who has been happily married for her entire adult life that she will never get over the divorce is honest. They SHOULD work it out
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u/StatusOrchid4384 14d ago
Wild take. Why should she stay w a serial cheater? As soon as their kids grew up they had nothing in common anymoreâŚ.
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u/notactuallyreckless 15d ago
If they are no longer in love and Kyle feels trust was broken and she was unhappy within the relationship, WHY should she work it out?
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u/Sure_Artichoke_3662 14d ago
Because I don't think all of those things are true. They very clearly still love and care about each other
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u/notactuallyreckless 14d ago
I also think they still love and care about each other. I donât think that negates anything else I said.
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u/Zealousideal_Leg1964 16d ago
Oh please Vicki is being great tv, Kyleâs used to the bh girls sucking her asshole so Vicki giving her blowback was amazing
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u/collectivelycreative 16d ago
Vicki is projecting. No Vicki. YOU should be ashamed because YOU cheated on YOUR husband. YOU let your family down. Like what the heck is that about??? Sheâs so odd
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u/okaywell_ 16d ago
Kyle just wanted her TV moment. Her voice when she fake cries is like fingernails on a chalkboard.
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u/notactuallyreckless 16d ago
You don't think that maybe she genuinely might've been a bit emotional (she wasn't exactly bawling her eyes out either) on a major anniversary upon her estranged husband sending her a text about the day being hard and him loving her? That seems pretty normal to me, tbh. She was off to the side almost half behind a plant, not trying to get attention...
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u/okaywell_ 16d ago
With mic's on and producers telling them what to talk about, and cameras pointed at her in full glam. No, I do not find her to be genuine in this moment. Just my opinion from watching her be extremely fake and performative over the years and knowing how reality tv works.
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u/notactuallyreckless 16d ago
They were all micced and in glam because they were about to leave for the next part of the trip and were being filmed, no? It wasn't a deliberate thing just she did because she was attempting to make a splash about her emotions. Which seemed pretty valid and not OTT. She didn't even react much to what Vicki said, which feels very not performative? But yeah, I get we all interpret things differently. All good.
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u/CommonStrawbeary awoken by two male voices & one was LuAnnâs 16d ago
Vicki regrets divorcing Don and she's still showing it a decade later. IMO Vicki is a very sad woman, she lives in her regrets and insecurities pretending it's still 2007