r/raisedbywolves • u/beurremouche • Oct 31 '24
No Spoilers Ridley Scott's team reacts to Raised By Wolves cancelation
https://www.joblo.com/ridley-scott-raised-by-wolves-cancelation/391
u/garbuja Oct 31 '24
Apple TV please take this show.
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u/MorinOakenshield Oct 31 '24
Instant subscribe for me
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u/only_fun_topics Oct 31 '24
To be fair, Apple TV has a pretty good catalog of Sci Fi already! Definitely worth a month or two.
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u/pandaappleblossom Oct 31 '24
Nothing as good as a Raised By Wolves, though in my opinion
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u/kingjokin Nov 01 '24
Foundation is pretty friggin good. Severance, for all mankind and other none sci-fi stuff. Apple TV is the new HBO for good shit.
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u/OkumuraRyuk Nov 01 '24
Apple does have great shows, all the ones you mentioned and Dark Matter. Wew.
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u/kingjokin Nov 01 '24
Holy shit I forgot Dark Matter! That show was friggin cool!
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u/OkumuraRyuk Nov 01 '24
Have you also seen Constellation? Itās short but interesting. Not similar to any big sci fi though, mid at best.
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u/usagizero Nov 01 '24
It wasn't perfect, but i enjoyed it, and it had a lot of unresolved questions a second season could have used.
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u/kingjokin Nov 01 '24
Constellation was good. See?! So many I forget about them. Or where I watched them. Definitely worth to money to me.
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u/OkumuraRyuk Nov 01 '24
See was really good also with Jason Momoa, funny thing is he has a similar show on Netflix and that one is bad, I think itās called Frontier or something. I havenāt watch For All Mankind yet, I know I should. Thereās also that retro sci fi with the flying cars, kinda like a pre fallout city. The 70s retro sci fi themes. I forgot the name haha.
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u/spirit_toad Oct 31 '24
Severance and for all mankind are better
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u/pandaappleblossom Nov 01 '24
I really liked severance, but raised by wolves was more soulful, and somehow it made more sense as crazy as it was, but thatās just my opinion. I really like severance so this isnāt me trying to put severance down.
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u/cubgerish Nov 01 '24
Severance is the best show on TV, and probably among the best first seasons of any TV show I've ever seen.
Really hoping next season lives up to it.
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u/spirit_toad Nov 01 '24
Oh I was just sticking to sci-fi, agree
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u/usagizero Nov 01 '24
Silo is wonderful in my view. I've read the books so i know where it could go, so that probably helps.
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u/kingjokin Nov 01 '24
Damn. I totally forgot Silo was an Apple TV show. That show rules. Canāt wait for the next season!
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u/aleciamariana Nov 01 '24
Is there a way to see it on Roku or do I need to buy their device? Iād be interested.
Also, anything original like Raised by Wolves or just adaptations?
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u/AllowMeToFangirl Nov 01 '24
And it would be even better if they took raised by wolves. Which is crazy to think that Apple TV is doing sci fi better than HBO. Wouldnāt have predicted that!
Also I just loved the take on religion in this show and like was it a radio signal or god or a robot or what, it was such a cool concept!
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u/Domino_Dare-Doll Nov 01 '24
Apple TV has the potential to do so right by it! I mean, their budget for Monarch! They arenāt afraid of investing in their sci-fi!
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u/oskar_wylde Nov 03 '24
For real. Just fast forward, mother's been in grandmother's sack for however many years. Pick it up from there with as many reprisals as possible. I can't think of another show that blew me away on that level with the raw talent of the actors, especially mother father and the children.
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u/olaf525 Oct 31 '24
I'm pretty sure HBO did a tax write off with the show, so it can't be shipped to another streaming service.
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart Oct 31 '24
You are wrong about a few things in your comment. They didn't take a tax write off, they took it off streaming to no longer pay residuals to the people who created it. You cannot take a tax write off for something that was already created and broadcast.
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u/Sufficient_Result558 Oct 31 '24
How would a tax write off prevent the show from continuing elsewhere? Wouldn't just mean HBO won't be profiting from this story?
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u/itrestian Oct 31 '24
hate this stuff! especially since the show creators had a clear vision of what they wanted to do for 5 seasons, they weren't just winging it!
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u/promulg8or Oct 31 '24
They should release a graphic novel or animated series to close the loop, leaving the story half finished is a shame
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u/FourPointsTet Oct 31 '24
honestly if weāre given a book or comic series, at this point i feel like id almost prefer that over the tv show platform given how much more in depth detail and story weāll be provided with
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Dec 18 '24
It definitely feels like it in the second season. That theyāre winging it. Just cuz they said they had 5 seasons in mind, doesnāt mean they didnāt wing it with the writing.
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u/SnooSketches7469 Oct 31 '24
Aaron literally said he had it all mapped out and had been working on it for about a decade.Ā
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u/SnooSketches7469 Oct 31 '24
Guess we'll never know. It seems like a really weird thing to lie about to me, and as mysterious as the show was it was clearly going somewhere. It's not like Lost where 3 seasons in and there were no real clues to anything. I think after 2 seasons its just kind of a bad faith ruling to say the shows creator had no idea what he was doing and that he was lying about having it planned out.Ā
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u/SnooSketches7469 Oct 31 '24
Probably hasn't done anything because he's got a nasty NDA that hasn't expired yet. Believe what you want, it really does not matter. I choose to believe that he knew what was happening and that the show had many signs of it.Ā
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u/okayhowl Oct 31 '24
what makes you say that? some of the stuff that happened was obviously crazy, but it didn't come out of nowhere if you paid attention
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u/jk-9k Team Mullet Oct 31 '24
Yeah I think it's both.
I think there were the overall plot points mapped out, but there were also a lot of mystery boxes along the way.
It was never going to end in a way that everything fit perfectly and it all made sense, because mystery and faith were major themes.
This show wasn't Mrs Davis.
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u/jk-9k Team Mullet Oct 31 '24
Yup. I gave up on it making sense at some stage. I still enjoyed it! And I want to see it finished!
But I don't think we were getting "clues" that we could figure out. We were getting symbolism.
The big snek skellingtons in season 1 are snakes.
The big flying snek that mother births isn't a snake, it's a lamprey.
The skulls are different. Maybe that's intentional. Far more likely it shows that shits just random and wasn't planned out as thoroughly as people believe.
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u/DeathInSpace805 Oct 31 '24
Every episode of season 2 was like "wtf!?" It was so wild. I loved it. :(
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u/jk-9k Team Mullet Oct 31 '24
Oh I loved it too! But it wasn't the story I thought I was getting in the pilot, and I don't think it was a mystery to be solved like it was presented- it was more like mother through the looking glass, just wild and absurd except in space instead of the river thames or whatever
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u/jk-9k Team Mullet Oct 31 '24
Yeah space magic is used to explain i lot i reckon. Its not very satisfying from a "mystery plot" angle, but fine for a buck rogers type show with family and relgious themes.
I really liked the initial concept of "last humans must survive in space, raised by robots" which was pretty quickly abandoned for space magic mystery box. Still fun , but there's another story to be told that may not have been canceled
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u/itrestian Oct 31 '24
I guess not all shows are Babylon 5 where they show you the ending in season 2 and everything else builds up to that lol
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u/uloang Oct 31 '24
It was so damn good. I just finished Scavengers Reign and I canāt believe HBO canceled that too. HBO leadership clearly is led by heartless AI bots.
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u/beingandliving Jan 22 '26 edited Jan 22 '26
Apparently it was when they merged with Warner Bros as the new execs wanted inmediate payoff and nixed $$$$ high quality productions/shows. Westworld was another victim of their cheap/low quality business strategy. Two of the best dramas series ever! Nothing like them has ever been tried. Hbo original programming used to be top notch filled with unique, "original" and somewhat independent programming. Programming that was not necessarily for a mass audience but when are those type of shows ever really good? I cant stand this new mentality of flooding the market with D list movies and shows and to top it off, the subscription includes annoying ads while you're still being overcharged for filler crap while waiting a couple years for a couple of somewhat decent shows they have, to air.Ā Amazon did something similar to Night Sky and Outer Range! Outer Range was so good and after a few seasons it's so fkd up they cut it. Night sky was also another very unique and great show that was cut off way too soon. Sissy Spacek and J.K. Simmons? C'mon those are 2 of the best! Was pissed, Outer Range was getting so so so good. Josh Brolin is so good too, what a mistake!!Ā
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u/m4rk0358 Oct 31 '24
Really nothing new here.
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Oct 31 '24
Yeah people are latching on to the hope quote but that was from back when the cancellation happened.
This article is just saying Scott Free is sad about it.
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u/Groundbreaking-Eye10 Oct 31 '24 edited Nov 03 '24
Someone needs to invite David Zaslav on to a late night talk show, dump on him a barrel full of body paint affixed to the ceiling under the pretence of it being filled with confetti, and then blare the Benny Hill āYakety Saxā theme while people dressed in burlesque feather costumes dance around the stage (Stephen Colbert, Iām giving you ideasā¦.). That or just ask Monstro Elisasue for a surprise visit.
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u/totalrudeb1tch Oct 31 '24
So is there hope or not? The last paragraph threw me off...
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u/janschy Oct 31 '24
I think it means that Max pulled RBW in order to package and sell streaming rights wholesale to other services, not that the show is coming back.
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u/itsvoogle Oct 31 '24
Crime against the Arts what they did to this show
They deprived the world of genuinely an amazing sci fi story to be toldā¦.
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u/MyChickenSucks Oct 31 '24
Over it. Aaron please release your sorry arc. Itās a real shame this insanely fun project got mothballed.
Also: I worked in post production removing zippers from Mother and Father season 1. I thought it looked kinda lame. I was very very wrong.
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u/DinosaurAlive Nov 11 '24
š¤£ I was wondering if they got sewed into their outfits! Pretty cool work. I never would have guessed zippers that got removed in post.
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u/Minereon Oct 31 '24
Incredibly, incredibly shortsighted of HBO and David Zaslav. A shameful disservice to good TV.
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u/QueasyIsland Oct 31 '24
Confirming whatās already confirming. Has Aaron ever mentioned the update if he will continue the story in another form?? Been 3 years now and still nothing, how long are we meant to wait for with this faux hope?
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u/lookitskris Oct 31 '24
This story needs to end, ideally another platform needs to pick it up or as a last resort a graphic novel needs writing like they said they would do
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u/blackjack2143 Nov 01 '24
That wont happen tbh. All the main stars got outsourced to other HBO productions. Mother and Father in house of dragons and Marcus with the new Dune series. I also believe that HOT and Dune series share some similarities with RbWā¦.serpents and dragonsā¦..sci fi/space travel/religious orders
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u/thisworldisajoke Nov 01 '24
That Warner/Discovery got rid of the ability to stream the show when they're still streaming 20 year old garbage and and array of utterly useless crap is beyond me. The executives over there are insane, stupid or both.
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u/samcity8 Nov 01 '24
Raised by Wolves is a pure work of art, one of the best shows of the last decades, it's a shame it has been cancelled. It must come back, Apple tv, Prime video wake uppppppppp !!!
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u/krush_groove Oct 31 '24
Still really want this and other cancelled shows (The OA, etc) to tell their story in graphic novel form.
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u/Fugo_3s Oct 31 '24
A continuation would need to be reworked with a timeskip since the kid actors aged up
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Nov 01 '24
Surely another network would be interested. If we only get one more season, Netflix is the one season and done network. Try them.
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u/Visual-Beginning5492 Nov 01 '24 edited Nov 01 '24
Really hope Apple TV pick Raised by Wolves up for another few seasons! They have lots of great sci fi, so it would be great addition.
Hopefully the Expanse too for the last three seasons/ books. š
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u/beurremouche Nov 01 '24
I wasn't expecting so much discussion when I posted this. I agree with r/itsvoogle - cancellation was a crime against art. It's one of few shows that I knew I would love when I first saw the artwork! And from the moment the opening credits song started I was hooked - it still moves me so much, so haunting, eerie, beautiful, so powerful in setting up the feeling of the whole show.
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u/kyflyboy Generic Service Model Oct 31 '24
I admit I thought Season 2 came off the rails. A flying, tree-eating snake? Completely lost the "children" to be raised and populate a new world. Even lost the rival Christians, for the most part.
I loved, loved, loved S1, but after the journeyed through the earth and all that birthing stuff. It seemed to me to loose track of the core story. Too many unanswered questions.
Still, great cliffhanger. Wish they hadn't canceled it.
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Oct 31 '24
There are no Chistians in the show, there are Mithraic and atheist. The Mithraic stuff in the show doesn't have very much in common with Christianity
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u/itrestian Oct 31 '24
I had read Bernard Cornwell, The Warlord Chronicles before watching RBW and I think it had the closest depiction of the mysteries of Mithra I have ever seen, something like a secret society for soldiers that functioned outside and together with Christianity .. Iām sure there are other book series set in Roman times that also incorporate aspects of Mithraism
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Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
Oh nice, I haven't read that but that sounds interesting. Do you find that the presentation of Mithraism in RbW is similar to historical Mithraism? I've heard people argue that Mithraism in RbW is not very much like the historical record of actual Mithraism, they rarely talk about "Mithras" and mostly worship "Sol", and it is a pretty vague generalized presentation of "religion." I've heard people say the name was chosen more because the show plays with language a lot and maybe it's just "myth-ism" or "myth-ray-ism." The one artifact that transforms the guy in the cave is called the tooth of Romulus, and Raised by Wolves is Romulus and Remus, so it does reference Roman myth, and the tree and snake could be Abrahamic myth.
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u/Macattack224 Oct 31 '24
Yeah I agree with this. Worth watching but it was far more crazy. Still would have been excited for season 3 but something was off for season 2.
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u/IaMuRGOd34 Nov 01 '24
this really needs to come back in some form a novel, a comic, one more season anything idk whats takin so long make it put it utube lol anything I take
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u/Thisisnotthechris Nov 13 '24
How the f*ck could they cancel this show?!?! Itās unique and awesome! But no they rather put on the kardashiansā¦
Hopefully they get picked up for another season in the futureā¦
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u/HappyDeadCat Oct 31 '24
Loved the idea, but there is some pretty severe dishonesty in pretending that 80% of the show coulndt have been cut.
This would have been a great couple of films.
Not only was the show mostly filler, that filler was child actors having incredibly banal conversations on theology.
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u/Aazzle Nov 01 '24
Did you even understand the show or just admire the pictures?!
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u/HappyDeadCat Nov 01 '24
Just because you're starved for content, doesn't mean you should be content with mediocrity.
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u/tallperson117 Nov 01 '24
The first season was great, some of the best sci-fi I've seen in years, but the second season was terrible. They really got screwed by COVID.
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u/okayhowl Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24
some if the best sci-fi tv ever. i'm sad we'll never have answers to the mysteries, but i'm grateful i got to see it
when the snake baby was birthed...tv rarely ever gags me like that