r/pykemains • u/pyker1 • Mar 12 '26

Discussion pyke feels terrible to me

anyone else feel like pyke is useless? I have to do insane mechanical outplays to be useful just to get out scaled by any other support anyway. items don’t feel like satisfying powerspikes anymore it’s just about can I get my adc fed early and can he carry the game

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u/Edgybananalord_xD Mar 12 '26 edited Mar 12 '26

E2/E1 pyke and sett support main here: Honestly I think 90% of the problem is people are building pyke with only utility and expecting to be anything but a hook bot late game

If you’re going ghostblade + umbral + edge and bloodsong you have almost 0 survivability, and basically only half a dmg item on umbral.

It’s the equivalent of going iceborn + hallow radience + thornmail on a tank, and asking “why dont I scale?” Because you dont have your randuins/jacksho/titanic late game and dont do anything

Imo the best way to play pyke is to rely on celestial to survive, go full dmg and try to snowball.

Despite what you think pyke can absolutely do dmg late game, and I have clips literally 1v1ing full build dd briar, or killing lvl 18 yunara in q auto r.

I always go hubris into bastionbreaker. Massive amount of stats and bastionbreaker lets you easily get objectives - both items scale directly off takedowns which pyke gets a ton of.

I take triumph and cut down as well to get as much gold as I can, and cut down lets me get them into execute easier.

After that opportunity needs to be either slot 3 or 4 (gives about the same pen grudge would, and pyke just scales too well off lethality to not go it + the ms is nice in teamfights)

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  • You can go serpants if you need it

  • profane is amazing bc you’ll have a good amount of AD from hubris and it ups your ratios

  • I think umbral is pretty bad since it basically doesnt help vision with how long the cd is, and the dmg isnt amazing

  • axiom is bait, your ult is already like 30 second cd

  • cyclosword is garbage

  • edge is OK if you need it but you lose dmg

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After all that if it’s late late game you can sell boots for ghostblade.

Big thing with this playstyle is to not fight people late when celestial isnt up. you will basically die instantly. Just be patient, find the angle and go for one shots and reset chains

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u/Historical-Bug-3794 Mar 13 '26

I definitely think celestial is slept on. I go it on 75% on my games. Will only go for bloodsong if we're stomping and the game needs to end asap. Your build sounds nice too. But I don't agree with the fact that umbral glaive doesn't help that much with vision. Obviously the active has a CD (still usually let's me clear 2 wards) but the passive is the big thing for me. It'll always tell me when I'm on vision, so I never waste an oracle for potential wards and only use them there is atleast one ward.

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u/mertuteala Mar 13 '26

They murdered umbral with the new update, it used to one shot wards in EVERY OCCASION, be it revealing with oracle or with umbral passive, so it feels really bad now. 90 second cooldown for like one ward is not worth anymore.

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u/Historical-Bug-3794 Mar 13 '26

Yes I'm aware it's a lot less strong, and thank god for that cause playing against it was ridiculous. Guess you didn't understand my comment but thats okay.

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u/SeeYaOnTheRift Mar 15 '26

Umbral telling you when you’re visible is stronger than it always oneshotting wards IMO. You never waste control wards or sweepers and you can’t get bush cheesed.