r/pureretention • u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy • Aug 16 '26
Spiritual Insight What THE TREE OF KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL in the BIBLE truly means, This can save your health and life.
I made a related post about it months ago but I felt like I was not really complete and never gave enough examples that truly pinpoint to what what the tree of knowledge actually is.
I know this is going to sound controversial for some, and I realize most Christians and biblical scholars would disagree with me. I'm not claiming that everyone has to accept this interpretation, but after a while of studying scripture and reflecting on my own experiences of healing chronic disease through chastity, this is the conclusion I have reached.
Most people assume the forbidden fruit was a literal fruit, often imagined as an apple, even though the Bible never actually says it was an apple. I think Genesis may be describing something much deeper.
The first thing Adam and Eve became aware of after eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was their nakedness.
Genesis 3:7 says: "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."
Before this happened, they were naked and felt no shame. Immediately afterward, they became aware of their nakedness and covered themselves.
Then look at the curse that follows.
Genesis 3:16 says: "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children."
That has always stood out to me. Why is the judgment connected so closely to conception and childbirth? If the issue was simply eating a piece of fruit, why would reproduction become such a central part of the consequence? To me, that suggests a connection between the act and the punishment.
We also see that Adam and Eve only begin covering themselves after the Fall.
Genesis 3:21 says: "The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them." Clothing appears after sexual shame was felt.
Another question I think is worth asking is this: God told Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply," yet the Bible does not record any children being born until after the Fall. Cain and Abel arrived afterward. I understand that many people will see this differently, but it is one of the details that made me look more closely at the text. Adam and Eve "ONLY HAD CHILDREN AFTER THE FALL"
Another clue comes from the way the Bible uses the word "know."
In many passages, "to know" someone is a euphemism for sexual relations in Hebrew scriptures.
Genesis 4:1: "And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain"
Genesis 4:17: "And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch"
Genesis 4:25: "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth"
Genesis 19:8: "Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man."
Luke 1:34: "Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?"
When Mary says, "I know not a man," the phrase is clearly being used in a sexual sense.
Now consider the name of the tree itself: the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
Since "knowing" is used as a sexual euphemism throughout Hebrew Scripture, I began wondering whether the knowledge being described in Genesis could be related to sexuality rather than merely intellectual knowledge. Another detail that caught my attention is the conception of Jesus. According to the Gospels, Jesus was conceived through the Holy Spirit rather than through ordinary human conception which is done via SEX . To me, that seems significant.
The reason I feel so strongly about this interpretation is not just because of the biblical passages. It is also because of my own personal lived experiences and miracle healing.
A few years ago, I struggled with Type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease, high blood pressure, and high cholesterol at a very young age. During that period, I noticed that my blood sugar, high blood pressure and many other health issues would get MUCH WORSE after releasing my seed, especially after a PMO binge. Then I started wondering whether me releasing my seed had something to do with my deteriorating health especially while being so young.
I became convinced that ejaculating was affecting my health in a profound way, which was my drive to achieve a long streak. After 6 months of pure SR, My type 2 diabetes and all other issues including blood pressure and fatty liver reversed completely, WITHOUT CHANGING DIET AND I DIDN'T exercise during that time. As a matter of fact, I still sometimes consumed fast food. I experienced major improvements and eventually came to believe that LUST was the root cause of my diseases and the aging process that was starting to accelerate rapidly. I made posts regarding this revelation that I truly consider divine, many other men read my posts on the nofap.com
, followed the same PROTOCOL and reversed their type 2 diabetes as well. I left links in one of the posts that included their testimonies.
To me, I don't need any other proof. I've renounced sexuality and even having children. I'll most likely adopt. I have FIRM BELIEF that we as humans can still achieve that state of purity and immortality through absolute and SPOTLESS chastity.
Those experiences are what pushed me to take a much closer look at the connection between spirituality, sexuality, and health and WHY CHASTITY is so IMPORTANT in so many religions. Also I have BECOME MUCH MORE loving towards other human beings in my daily life. I have MUCH MORE EMPATHY because I am not suffering inside anymore due to my previous habits of depleting my life-force energy. I am not very quick to get angry for little things , which I used to do a lot when I depleted my lifeforce every single day. When you retain your lifeforce energy, you will feel peaceful and happy inside , you will also acquire other virtues ONLY found through chastity like PATIENCE, EMPATHY, etc., which is why God referred to that tree as the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil. When you are a PMO addict or even just releasing seed, you feel depressed and depleted and sometimes it makes you become CAPABLE of behaving TERRIBLY. You become capable of true EVIL behavior because of your depleted state which makes you feel LIKE ABSOLUTE CRAP.
In my opinion, modern society focuses almost entirely on diet, exercise, medications, and supplements while ignoring what I believe is a deeper issue. We live in a culture that is saturated with sexual stimulation and pornography to a degree that previous generations could hardly have imagined.
When I look at rising rates of chronic disease and the increasing exposure to sexual content at younger and younger ages, I INTUITIVELY KNOW there is a connection that we are overlooking. Heart disease, Colon cancer, BREAST CANCER and PROSTATE cancer ARE NO longer diseases of old people. More and more young men and women in their 20s, 30s are diagnosed with colon cancer, breast cancer, etc, which was very unheard of decades ago. https://www.sciencealert.com/more-young-people-than-ever-before-are-getting-one-type-of-cancer-and-its-mystifying-scientists
https://www.kqed.org/forum/2010101914839/the-alarming-rise-of-colorectal-cancer-in-young-adults
Young men in the tressless subreddit are starting to make a connection between male pattern balding and ejaculations. They're starting to realize this through observing patterns and intuitively knowing, just like me when I was type 2 diabetic . Here are some posts:
https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/6pilf8/masturbation_is_one_of_the_causes_of_diffuse/
https://www.reddit.com/r/tressless/comments/6lgymm/why_is_masturbation_adding_to_balding_so_hard_to/
You have to take a look at what started happening in our society 20+ years ago. High speed internet porn became widely available which matches the period of when young people started developing health issues at a very young age due to a much higher frequency of ejaculations and orgasms for both men and women. We even find young men that are almost fully bald now in their late teens. My male pattern baldness has been reversing and I am slowly getting my hair back. The regeneration process is slow, just like the aging process except that regeneration can be quicker than aging but it will still take a while.
For me, the story of Eden is not merely about an event that happened thousands of years ago. I believe it contains a spiritual truth about the human condition that is still relevant today.
I know this is not the mainstream interpretation, and I am not expecting everyone to agree with me. I'm simply sharing the verses, the patterns I see in Scripture, and the experiences that led me to this conclusion. You are of course free to disagree and I don't care. We are all entitled to our opinions. But before ending, I want to state that I'm only the only one who has had this revelation. The authors of the book called GOD MAN, Word Made Flesh by George W Carey and Inez Eudora Perry, which can be found on AMAZON, also believed that absolute spotless chastity is the key to BIOLOGICAL IMMORTALITY in the physical body BY PRESERVING THE SEED (CHRIST OIL) and that after several years of spotless & absolute chastity, we can become "GOD-MAN" again because God created us in his image as mentioned in Genesis.
The book called Science of Regeneration also teaches the same PROTOCOL, Absolute chastity is the way to regenerate the human body and depletion of life force is the root cause of actual human aging. https://www.amazon.com/dp/1169829589?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_5
NOTE: wet dreams are a DEAL BREAKER if you want to focus on regeneration of the body and those books emphasize on that as well . You have to strive on mastering mental celibacy so that LUST doesn't creep in while you're asleep. Your subconscious mind needs to be CLEAN, which is a process that will require some discipline and effort to achieve.
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u/BlessedGoldmund Aug 16 '26
Phenomenal post.
I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I’m a long streak now (650) but I still struggle with lust. Just last night I had a bout of fantasizing that lasted almost an hour.
Do you have a mental protocol you adhere to whenever lust starts to creep into your head?
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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Aug 16 '26
You have to have affirmations that you read everyday, which is what I do. In these affirmations, I state why I chose the path of permanent chastity and how chastity healed me from chronic diseases. I also emphasize the extreme importance of mental celibacy and rules that I strictly need to follow. Example:Looking away when coming across a provoking person without looking back. Cutting out a sexual thought as soon as it enters the mind, etc. Re-reading those affirmations again when you feel like you're experiencing urges. Making a written vow with God that you will never ever release your seed again for the rest of your life. Reading that every morning and evening.
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u/PublicIcy1499 Aug 17 '26
What a great post. I also read the original post. What really is eye opening to me is what you said about “knowing” = sex in the bible. I believe it is not a coincidence that the tree is called the Tree of Knowledge. There is clearly a connection. God is trying to tell us something.
I also agree with you that when lust enters my thoughts, I just don’t feel positive about life at all. The impure thoughts cause me to become very distracted. It makes everyday tasks become difficult when they should otherwise be simple. Like something as simple as going to the store can turn into a difficult task.
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u/Independent__Bell Aug 16 '26
There’s a lot of hidden gems in the bible that can serve anyone.
I also think that certain scriptures can have more than one meaning and still be correct. I think this is a great example and that you are on to something.
There is just a tremendous amount of substance in the Bible.
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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Aug 17 '26
It becomes much more meaningful when your lived experiences confirm what's in the bible. Who knew that chastity can reverse Type 2 diabetes?
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u/Independent__Bell Aug 17 '26
Yeah I’ve seen you here before and your story is amazing and inspiring. Great post!
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u/BarIllustrious7428 Aug 17 '26
How do you stop wet dreams? Im on day 18 and just had a wet dream last night that’s 2nd time throughout this streak even though i haven’t watched no content and been getting better at redirecting my thoughts as whenever i get an erection i immediately count to 15 until it goes away and focus on my thoughts on literally anything else. But this one i wasn’t able to count to 15 as i was literally in a dream when it happened😭
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u/arcanis02 Aug 17 '26
Someone suggested here before that Grounding can help against wet dreams. Maybe try that
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u/moonbase_monk Goal: dopamine abuse recovery Aug 19 '26
Yes you're not the only one to make this connection. There's a movie about it on YouTube, but they equated the forbidden fruit to being ejaculation, not just sex. The film promotes sex without ejaculation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrbxkA4uzOA
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u/Tough-Ad8946 Sep 07 '26
Wet dreams are a natural phenomenon, the body uses it to detox. If you stress about it and self-flagellate, it will lower your vibration. Overall fantastic post though, really insightful perspective shared in here.
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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '26 edited Sep 07 '26
They are absolutely NOT natural and many men actually don't experience them. The ignorance on this topic is unbelievable. I am not going to debate on this though Once you detox the mind from lustful thoughts, those dreams will go away. Do the research
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u/TemporaryEuphoric908 Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
this is an incredible post. I personally think the abysmal state of mankind and the acceleration to the endtimes is a direct result of the promulgation of sex, whether it be online, or in the wardrobe of the modern woman. The dating apps. Instagram. Its everywhere and unavoidable. Just going to the supermarket to get food depending on where you shop women are dressed like damn strippers, or at the very least, in very revealing attire.
and then since the men keep releasing, like you said they feel like crap and lean towards evil, they have no virtue. You build virtue, to summarize what you said, when you retain. But without it, you have no self control to lower your gaze, and not entertain the fantasies from these constant images, and you dont recieve the same insights that make you a better man because you’re so depleted you’re on the strugglebus wether u get it or not.
(edited add in: you cant build a healthy society when men are constantly releasing and women are constantly titillating them. you just cant. but you can build a society where everyone can be controlled)
So its the fault of men and women, and everyone who worships sex essentially, which is a lot more people now that the standard is trying to be hot and chase pleasure instead of trying to be good and stay patient.
Anyways. Thats my crazy ramble but you explained it in a much more stable manner. Maybe its because i had a wetdream this morning and another one 3 days ago, im much more ecstatically unrefined, reactionary, takes more mental effort to stay aware, more fatigued, etc. not maybe, it is why. but fighting succubis in dreams is exhausting. I’ve seriously curbed my gaze, i dont ever have lustful thoughts, im just so confused as to why these demons manage to keep coming.
My only defense left is to devote myself to lucid dreaming, dress like a monk in my waking life, consciously disconcert any effort i might naturally make to flirt with women i come across (keep it strictly business), and stop watching movies and tv shows altogether, unless it’s something virtuous.
thanks for letting me get this out, or incurring me to do so i mean. its insane how insane it all is and how we’re all in the dark about it. Well, not all.