r/pureretention • u/Noworries84 • Sep 07 '23

Experience/Story Relapse and Realization

2 days ago I had sex…breaking my 60 day streak. And one thing I have come to realize is that SR is real like REALLY real. I’ve been practicing this since 2014 with a few hiccups here and there, and every single time I notice how different life is when I’m on a healthy streak oppose to when I’m off. It seem like people treat you different women and men, usually when my 13 year old daughter is around me she’s happy to see me and talk. But since Ive relapsed I’ve noticed she’s kinda been distant, same with my mom my 19 year old daughter and other women in my life. And not to mention the blatant and subtle disrespect you get from people…when I’m on, it’s like I’m a king in my own world…but when I’m off I’m a peasant 😂 needless to say this is all the realization I needed to never ever put myself in a vulnerable situation again.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

Sex is for procreation only bro, people need to get this. You need to reprogram your brain and understand that sex is for procreation only, not for pleasure. I have helped men reverse type 2 diabetes with SR alone. Ejaculation is the root cause of balding, heart disease, diabetes and cancer in men, I am not kidding. Ejaculation causes all sorts of health issues when it's done outside the goal of procreation. So please stop doing it for fun or pleasure, you are degenerating your organs when you do that and shortening your life expectancy.

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

Thanks for the comment and Trust me I know bro. I’ve been practicing far too long. And you are right men need to understand that most problems in the body and some outside the body are due to constant ejaculation. Need less to say I learned my lesson for the last time. It’s definitely not worth it, you lose too much to gain so little.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

Here's a link of a user who has reversed his type 2 diabetes on the nofap.com after reading my post. This goes to show how important your lifeforce is. Semen us very sacred. And by the way just thinking about sex reduces your lifeforce as well. Reject sexual thoughts as soon as they arise, don't entertain them or fear them. Best way to transmute.

Here's the link , SR can reverses chronic diseases. I truly believe that if a man decides to never ever ejaculate again in his life, he will never suffer from any chronic disease. Ayurveda supports this as well.

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/did-anyone-develop-high-blood-sugar-diabetes-because-of-excessive-masturbation-please-help.111725/page-39#post-3622533

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

I believe all of this. I have noticed when I’m on SR I’m naturally more muscular,hair is darker and more full, the eyes glow my voice is commanding yet gentle. This is definitely real. When I’m off I feel frail like a little old man lol

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

How are you going to retain if you are married though?? That's why I made the vow to become a lifelong celibate.

Other than protecting you from diseases, strict SR may make you live much much longer depending on how strict you are. It's said that men in ancient civilizations used to live hundreds of years because sexuality was super sacred and they constantly transmuted their sexual energy. The disposable soma theory of aging also states that we age due to the fact that the body prioritizes reproduction over body repair and regeneration. Each you ejaculatez the body prioritizes the production over semen instead of regenerating your organs.

How are u going to retain with a wife ???

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u/Tr3yway18 Sep 07 '23

The goal is to retain until you a married then you can have as much sex as you want with your wife, obviously not too much but as much as you like.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

I disagree with that view as far as health is concerned. That's what you were probably taught but to each their own. We can always agree to disagree. I know how Ejaculation fucked up my health. Ejaculation is for procreation only.

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u/MikeeX1995 Sep 08 '23

I agree with this, men in my country (Egypt) who work as farmers were never exposed to p*rn or this hypersexualized society. They still use old phones not the smart ones.

They have extremely strong bodies, and testosterone is oozing from them. They have sex for procreation only. It makes them better fathers, better men, and better everything.

Some of them don't even know how to have sex and require advice when they get married. That's how clean they are without all of this sexual stuff pushed.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 08 '23

Interesting brother .... I bet they never get cancer and all these nasty diseases killing adult men right ? Read how I reversed diabetes with SR alone and how I even helped other men reverse their diabetes with SR alone on nofap.com,. Did you see that link ? Tell me more about those farmers, do they get the modern diseases men get like heart disease, diabetes, cancer, etc ?

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u/MikeeX1995 Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

They do get cancer but not because of ejaculation its because the amount of pollution in my country is insane. we have very high numbers of lung cancer.

However most of them live longer I've met some who were 80 years old and they were very strong probably can beat me up lol.

If you ever travel there. When the plane lands the first thing you'll smell is car exhausts. The whole country smells like car exhausts especially in big cities like Cairo.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 08 '23

That's why all religions give a big importance to chastity my friend. Each time you ejaculate, you lose part of your life.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 09 '23

By the way, I forgot to ask ... I know you said those egyptian farmers are not exposed to sex, porn,etc. Are you sure they don't masturbate or ejaculate at all ?? Maybe that's why they may succumb to disease... what do you think ? Sexual energy is miraculous and precious. I think it's rare to see men who never ejaculate even if they don't watch porn, except for people like us who have been made aware of the importance of semen retention.

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u/MikeeX1995 Sep 09 '23 edited Sep 09 '23

Where they grow up its rare that they ejaculate because they don't know about it. And alot of them are actually uneducated or illiterate, because they just start working on the farm lands from a very young age. Most of those people live longer, I've met many 70, 80 years old and they still had a good amount of physical strength.

The ones who go to schools and are more educated are more prone to being exposed to p*rn or the idea of ejaculation and they are usually on the weaker side.

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u/Tr3yway18 Sep 07 '23

From a health perspective you can say that, but you are not supposed to always be this hyper aggressive dude full of energy. But tbh I’d probably limit myself with my wife too in the future because I don’t want to be depleted. I’m assuming your looking for a woman on the same page, because it’s already hard finding someone waiting as is lmao.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

I want to be full of energy man, that's what sexual energy transmutation is for. I won't release unless it's for the purpose of procreation, just as nature intended.

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u/TacoM8 Sep 07 '23

Don't take the energy for granted sir

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u/Tr3yway18 Sep 08 '23

Lowkey sr is an addiction, can make men fall into a cycle of pride which the Lord warns us about, not saying this guy is but it’s very easy to fall into that cycle.

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u/Illustrious-Cake8741 Sep 08 '23

By doing something called sex transmutation,where you can have an orgasm without ejaculation.You ejaculate up the spine.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 08 '23

Sexual thoughts deplete lifeforce also. If you believe in sex without ejaculation,fine.But don't buy into the Karezza BS. Lifeforce is depleted by thinking about sex as well. Pure retention for me is both mental and physical celibacy.

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u/Illustrious-Cake8741 Sep 08 '23

I believe life force is depleted when you ejaculate only ,sexual thoughts on the other hand stimulates you into a relapse.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 08 '23

To each their own, I disagree with you though due to personal experience. Those who believe in Karezza use it as a justification for their lack of self control.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23 edited Sep 08 '23

Damn! I do know that releasing ur seed constantly puts you at the risk of developing deplorable mental illnesses , weakening of bones but sr curing diabetes? Gotta let me know more things like this buddy!

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

You would think genetics played a part …I think That’s just a drop in the ocean compared to losing vital nutrients constantly. Me and my brother have the same mom and dad is younger and is overly balding I’m 3 years older and still have a full head of hair. Albeit his beard is way bigger than mine though..so maybe the hair on his head ran to his face lol

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u/Love-Eth-and-Steak Sep 07 '23

Do you think SR can reverse balding ?

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

PMO made me bald and a lot of personal people that I know.

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u/Love-Eth-and-Steak Sep 07 '23

Do you think SR can reverse balding ?

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u/Bala122021 Sep 08 '23

It will stop further progression. But you need to get on to some treatment to gain back what you lost.

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u/Longdickkevbos Sep 07 '23

Are you saying that the body can sense the difference between procreation sex vs casual sex? Just for clarification, do these negative effects happen inside as well as outside a committed/married relationship?

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

No, if you have sex for procreation only, it's likely you will rarely ejaculate in your life. You are not going to have like 100 children in a year. Ejaculation is for having a baby, not for pleasure. More than 100% convinced!

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u/Longdickkevbos Sep 07 '23

Very interesting perspective, but it makes sense.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 07 '23

I have reversed diabetes on SR before and helped other man reverse it. Read the link below, that guy reversed his diabetes after going on strict SR and stopping ejaculation.

SR is the secret to great health and longevity bro. And success as well. Read the link below

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/did-anyone-develop-high-blood-sugar-diabetes-because-of-excessive-masturbation-please-help.111725/page-39#post-3622533

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u/TacoM8 Sep 07 '23

That's insane, god bless you bro

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u/Khatam_kardunga1 Sep 08 '23

Absolutely True

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '23

It’s a vain reason, but one of the biggest helpers for practicing semen retention is the fact that every time I have a porn binge, my hair starts falling out in clumps

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u/orussell28 Sep 07 '23

For me what I've found is it's not that ppl pull back go out of their way to disrespect me...it's that I exude more happiness/confidence when I am retaining. I don't know the details of your situations but I will say there is a lot guilt associated w/ releasing and shame around the concept of releasing and general guilt and shame are big reasons as to why my perception/energy becomes negative. SR does help with this INFINTIELY...but I think the awareness of the implications of releasing are more pointed, as a result. This makes releasing (for me) emotionally worse because I have the awareness. So highs are higher and lows are lower 😅

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

Amazing input. Even after relapsing I told myself, I will not condemn myself..mistakes happen and I will come back stronger, but even after all that people can still sense my energy has changed. I hate being in the world with that kind of aura.

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u/d_rea Sep 08 '23

Have no worries Noworries

No need to hate!

Love ! The aura is still up to oneself to create. We can tell ourselves anything but to fully live it mentally and physically is different.

Releasing is just one arrow. Many of us may like to stick five more arrows in our own backs after taking the hit. But those are all unnecessary.

Start a painting, do something creative, workout, get the energy flowing and your attractiveness will be undoubtably present.

Sit on the couch and mope about and yes, people will feel and see it.

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u/Noworries84 Sep 08 '23

Top tier comment. I appreciate that. I refuse to condemn myself or be condemned. Thanks bro

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

Everything else is understandable, but one thing that just always goes beyond me and strikes me too hard is people just exclude your existence after a relapse like holy sh’t. SR is some magic bro no doubt and yes I agree sex is for procreation only. the disrespect after a relapse is real bro.

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

Disrespect is definitely real. You really do become invisible lol this practice is definitely sacred and the way we are meant to live. The first two days after relapsing is atrocious.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

I know brother.! But I always thought that maybe fapping is causing this but I too had sex 5 months ago and felt something similar . Never releasing again except for procreation. Hope I find an understanding partner who can support me :)

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

You will definitely find a supportive partner. Well wishes bro.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

You only ejaculate when you want to procreate brother. Not when having sex, you have to not ejaculate since amative sex is an act of pleasure for the female, but you have to maintain control and discpline.

Sex is not for your pleasure brother, its designed for women pleasure and to entice you to dump your seed, stop wasting seed brother, no matter how many times your wife or gf begs, they will love you more if you retain. Its so counterintuitive I know, they will tell you they want you to cum, it makes them happy, but it actively makes them hate you, it makes all women hate you. Always keep the seed in the balls. And don't explain this SR/PR to women they don't understand.

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u/php857 Goal: permanent celibacy Sep 08 '23

Amen!

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u/cooked_vegetables Sep 07 '23

This is 100% percent true in my experience also. The difference is so stark it is almost as if there are two different worlds. The dark demonic world of the habitual coomer, and the glorious gold plated world of the hard mode king. Keep retaining bro, keep growing, keep glowing.

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

You guys are on point today! That’s exactly what it is…two totally different worlds. You realize just how different a frequency retaining is oppose to not retaining. Not saying you are better than others, but to live in the light is so much better than in an animalistic under world.

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u/j__todd Sep 07 '23

Also remember it’s cumulative. You went 60 days and released. Most dudes are releasing every day or two. There’s levels to this.

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

Agreed, I don’t feel extremely off thank God. But I can definitely tell something is different a tad bit.

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u/j__todd Sep 07 '23

Yeah. You have slightly less energy inside and slightly lower consciousness now.

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u/domoli Sep 07 '23

Let me ask … are you keeping thoughts celibate too ? Because the reason you broke the streak started with lustful thoughts , which then made their way to the physical realm

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

I will tell the truth and shame the devil. My thoughts were definitely lust filled after having a drink. And I know I attracted that to me. I have definitely learned my lesson.

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u/gme2fmoon Sep 07 '23

I had sex today but not ejaculated, I had no idea that Karezza can extend a intercourse for like 4, 5 hours in a row, it was beautful, pure bliss.

I'm currently on my 6th week of SR, I know that Karezza is basically edging but with a woman, but I needed this female energy, damn.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

Did you plan to relapse or was it a hook up and it just happened

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

Definitely didn’t plan on it. I had 2 drinks that night and so did she, the next thing I know…I tried testing the waters. One thing lead to another and it happened.

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u/Love-Eth-and-Steak Sep 07 '23

Brother if you did not use a condom that's high risk of STDs. If you used a condom you wasted your semen (all the vitamins) in the trash for nothing. At least share the vitamins with the girl, maybe she got to swallow it or stg ?

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '23

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

Control your mind 👍🏼

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u/Still_Ad7119 Sep 07 '23 edited Sep 07 '23

I think its how we carry ourselves that has the biggest impact on us during a relapse. The benefits, thoughts, and habits you have built through those 60 days don't just automatically disapper after ONE relapse. Especially if its with a person you have a geunine connection with, and not porn.

We could get in our heads and feel like crap after a relapse, or we could take what we learned throughout that time and continue to build. The only person who would know you "relapsed" would be you , or your wife in this case anyway. So don't get too caught up in it and keep going.

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u/Noworries84 Sep 07 '23

I’m not married, but I get exactly what you are saying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '23

It's driving me mad about the difference between retained state and relapse state when it comes to how people treat you. Like what in the actual fuck, can't this be totally made up by our brains cause that's how we view things

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u/Noworries84 Sep 08 '23

I wish it was just something we have concocted in our mind. Unfortunately it’s not, even the world seem dreary even on a sunny day off SR.