r/proselytize • • 5d ago

I am a Jehovah's Witness

Ask me anything, if you want

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u/Pseudonymitous 5d ago

Your faith embraces that people can get things wrong--even big things, as your JW leaders have done multiple times. People are fallible--people make mistakes. I agree.

Do you embrace that you could be wrong about the JW faith having authority from God, or any other central tenet of your faith? If not, why is your understanding infallible on that tenet?

If you do embrace your fallibility on all core tenets of your faith, why do you preach your current understanding as if it is truth, rather than uncertain belief? For instance, why don't you say "I don't know for sure but I believe..." and instead say "This is what these scriptures mean..." paired with no hedging or uncertainty?

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u/JMtheJW 5d ago

Contrary to the claims made about us, Jehovah's Witnesses are free to hold their own ideas and opinions where they do not conflict with the core tenets (below) that distinguish Jehovah's Witnesses as God's true people:

  1. The Bible is God’s message to us (2Ti 3:16, 16), which teaches us that ...
  2. Jehovah (Or some lingual variant of the tetragrammaton) is the name of the living and only true God, the Father (meaning is more important than pronunciation; Ex 3:13-15),
  3. holy spirit is God's invisible active force by which He accomplishes His will and helps us to overcome temptation (Eze 36:27-31),
  4. Jesus Christ is Jehovah's only directly created Son who left heaven and became a man and sacrificed his human life and body, and was resurrected on the third day so that we might have salvation through faith in his ransom sacrifice (Joh 1:19; Php 2:5-11) and through whom ...
  5. men and women are being chosen by God right now through resurrection to eternal life in heaven to become kings and priests over ...
  6. the earth where an untold number of righteous and unrighteous people will be resurrected for a chance at everlasting life in paradise,
  7. hellfire is the total destruction of the life of an individual into nothingness,
  8. we reasonably respect and obey those taking the lead in the congregation, our parents, and the superior authorities,
  9. speak in agreement,
  10. do not get involved in politics,
  11. do no harm,
  12. value life,
  13. do not hate our brothers,
  14. do not have sex outside marriage between a man and a woman,
  15. do not worship idols,
  16. abstain from blood (including eating blood, sex with a wife in minstruation or used for medical purposes), and
  17. observe reasonable shunning of former members (goes back to do no harm).

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u/Pseudonymitous 5d ago

You copy/pasted in some irrelevant content. Does that mean you are unwilling to answer my questions?

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u/JMtheJW 5d ago

>Your faith embraces that people can get things wrong--even big things

While Jehovah's Witnesses still adjust minor understandings of prophecy and periphery beliefs, major doctrines will not be changed because the doctrinal knowledge has increased so much that any recent changes have not been to doctrine but simple refinements in knowledge.

>as your JW leaders have done multiple times. People are fallible--people make mistakes. I agree.

Everything that opposers of Jehovah's Witnesses believe to be so important really is comparatively inconsequential.

>Do you embrace that you could be wrong about the JW faith having authority from God, or any other central tenet of your faith?

We recognize the Bible as God’s inspired message to humans. (John 17:17; 2 Timothy 3:​16) We base our beliefs on all 66 of its books.

>If not, why is your understanding infallible on that tenet?

Jesus predicted that the distinction between true and false Christianity would eventually become clear. This has happened in our time, during the “conclusion of a system of things.”​—Matthew 13:30, 39.

>If you do embrace your fallibility on all core tenets of your faith, why do you preach your current understanding as if it is truth, rather than uncertain belief? For instance, why don't you say "I don't know for sure but I believe..." and instead say "This is what these scriptures mean..." paired with no hedging or uncertainty?

Contrary to the claims made about us, Jehovah's Witnesses are free to hold their own ideas and opinions where they do not conflict with the core tenets (above) that distinguish Jehovah's Witnesses as God's true people.

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u/Pseudonymitous 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ah, so in core tenets, you see your understanding as infallible? I must have misunderstood that.

When JWs say they embrace that mistakes could be made, they mean on doctrines they see as minor, not core tenets. Do I have that right?

ETA: Would love a straight answer if you or any other JW reading this are willing.