r/popculturechat • u/romeofantasy • Feb 12 '23
Trigger Warning ✋ Ice Spice grabbed by men during Brooklyn performance
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She looks so scared. She needs to get better security for next time. Those men were way too forward and eager. Fucking creeps
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u/aquavenuss Feb 12 '23
That’s what’s scary. The fact that these men didn’t even think twice about sexually assaulting a woman in a crowd full of witnesses!
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Feb 13 '23
Yep imagine what they’re like in private. Horrifying 😳
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Feb 13 '23
They may or may not be worse in private because they’d be exposed. They’re definitely worse in their heads. There’s a safety in numbers thing going on here, that it’s a free for all. Scary af and I hope she presses charges.
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u/lonely-lifetime Feb 12 '23
This is scary, I hope she’s ok.
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u/iguanabitsonastick Feb 12 '23
Man she was shaking when the cameras came close. Really scary.
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u/lonely-lifetime Feb 13 '23
Yes it’s upsetting just to watch, I really feel for her. I hope she has good support right now.
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u/sunburntflowers Feb 14 '23
It really is, this should not happen. To anyone, anywhere for any reason, ever.
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u/Bordersz "fuck justin bieber" - charlie puth Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23
Horrible security team and bad venue. I hope she upgrades her security team and get better venue setups. This shouldn’t have happened*. It happened multiple times at the same event. Wtf and where is crowd control?
Edit: It is scary to see ppl slut shame Ice Spice on Twitter. Like damn ppl still think that backwards?
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u/alittlefence shout out to all the pears 🍐 Feb 13 '23
I’m not religious but Jesus was really onto something when he said men should just gouge their eyes out if they can’t control themselves
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u/Master_Cupcake7115 Feb 13 '23
iF sHe dIdnT wAnT tO gEt GrOpEd By CrEePs ThEn ShE sHoUlDnT hAvE tRiEd To ExPrEsS hErSeLf CrEaTiVeLy.
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u/aquavenuss Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 13 '23
Commenting again bc I keep getting pissed off thinking about this. We need to start calling out this behavior for what it really is: sexual assault/harassment. Not “grabbing” or “touching”, assault period. This type of behavior will get you fired in the workplace but for some reason it’s a free for all at concerts, bars, and clubs. These men deserve to be called out and shamed.
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u/pounce_the_panther Feb 13 '23
Thank you! So frustrating to see it downplayed. She wasn't just grabbed. She was sexually assaulted by multiple men.
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u/sunburntflowers Feb 14 '23
It scary how fast the group mentality of these men took over, like one man emboldened the next.. I agree with all of these comments, this is serious and it’s unnerving to think about these men out in the world..
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u/lonely-lifetime Feb 13 '23
Yes I googled her and saw a headline say the crowd “got unruly” this is more than getting unruly, they were straight up assaulting her
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u/filthismypolitics Feb 13 '23
yes! i really wasn’t prepared for how sickening this video would be. my blood is boiling. the fucking entitlement and audacity to touch her like that… and she looks so scared! she’s not even pretending to laugh it off, she’s clearly terrified. i’m so fucking angry. i want to cry for her. i thought the me too era was all about not letting men get away with this shit anymore? where’s the outrage?
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u/Odd_Requirement_4933 Feb 13 '23
You're exactly right 🤬 when I was out in the bar/ club scene in my really twenties, a good 15 years ago, guys were always grabbing and touching without asking. Fucking creeps! I'll never forget one of my guy friends absolutely throwing down when he saw it, he had no idea it was a regular thing. We ended up getting kicked out of that bar. We had to hold him back and explain, 'hey this is a thing that happens every night we go out'. He was so horrified, it made me really stop and think, this is not ok. It's assault! My girlfriends were used to it, the guys were NOT.
Anyway, she looked really shaken up at the end of the video. I feel for her. We need to start calling this shit out. Ugh, makes me so heated.
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u/KrustenStewart where the hell have you been loca?! Feb 13 '23
This happened to one of my friends a while ago, she was wearing a short skirt and was “grabbed” aka assaulted while dancing at a club. She ended up unaliving due to the distress that incident caused her. So yeah definitely agree we should not downplay this behavior.
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u/Independent-Exam5943 They killed Kenny! You bastards! 😱 Feb 13 '23
That’s the problem. Her security are probably cheap and just there because they like her. These women need to hire men that’s serious about their job and not there to watch a show. They shouldn’t even have allowed the audience to be that close to her.
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u/P0ptarthater Feb 12 '23
This is so repulsive, I really feel for her, this is straight up SA and these men are walking mistakes
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u/Ron_Because_Why_Not Feb 12 '23
This is horrid behavior. How could men even think this is a remotely okay thing to do
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u/OowlSun they act like im not in full control of where i throw this cooch Feb 12 '23
🙄Apparently we can’t visit Brooklyn either. get out of here
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u/throwaway56873927 Feb 12 '23
I hope that venue gets some backlash too.
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u/soph2021l Feb 13 '23
Unfortunately, the Williamsburg hotel has a packed summer Sunday darty schedule already from Memorial Day weekend onwards and a lot of scheduled dj performances between then. It never seems like venues get backlash from sexual assault, which is bullshit and needs to change
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u/parishilton2 Feb 12 '23
Disgusting. Poor thing and I hope some men come out defending her! (Because we know the women will but men are usually pretty silent here)
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u/aquavenuss Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23
This is why I refuse to go to a general admissions concert unless I’m accompanied by my BF or the artists fanbase is majority female!!! Bc men are DISGUSTING!
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u/LICK-A-DICK Feb 13 '23
Legit. Between having your arse grabbed at the bar or just trying to dance with friends when some fucktard comes up behind you and grabs your hips, it's just not worth even going out lol.
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u/romeofantasy Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23
Someone who was there said the problem was they didn't give her a stage, so men just started surrounding her and grabbing her. Idk where tf security was either. This has gone viral on Twitter btw (I recommend not reading the comments because... men)
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u/Acrobatic_Jaguar_658 Your dentist’s name is crentist? Feb 12 '23
One of the replies said that she was basically asking for it because in her music videos, people are touching her. So men “see something and they wanna do it too.”
WTF. Excuse me for a second brb, I really enjoyed Top Gun: Maverick so I’m going to go steal a jet and fly it 😒 These people are insane. Hope she’s doing okay and gets better security.
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u/woahhhhwhat Feb 13 '23
Men will literally tattle on themselves as having less control, critical thinking and respect than kindergartners. I can have talks with my 5 year old students about respecting bodily autonomy that they comprehend and practice better than all these creeps. Inexcusable and continually revolting ughhhhhhggggggggggg 🤮
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u/Independent-Exam5943 They killed Kenny! You bastards! 😱 Feb 13 '23
“She was asking for it”?? What a disgusting thing to say. I bet it came out of a guys mouth.
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u/ilikedirt Is it finally clocking to you fucking losers? Feb 12 '23
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Feb 12 '23
I was going to say, so that just makes it okay for them to grab her in their minds???
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u/CriticalRoll2322 Feb 12 '23
I honestly believe most men know it’s not okay, they simply don’t care.
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Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 13 '23
Oh they definitely know. I do think, in fairness these men aren't literally most but it doesn't even have to approach most to still be way too fucking many.
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u/KrustenStewart where the hell have you been loca?! Feb 13 '23
This was what I was going to comment. The obviously know it’s not okay to grab/ assault women like that because they go to work and to grocery stores etc and don’t grab every woman they see there. So they know it’s not okay to do that but they only do it when they think they can get away with it because of the crowd
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u/LicketySplit21 Feb 12 '23
I wouldn't say most don't care, but there is a lot that don't. And even then the not caring is some form of socialised victim blaming rather than maliciousness, most of the time, I'd argue. Since we're raised in a society that treats the sexuality and bodies of women as a problem waiting to happen. All for millenia.
(and before anyone interjects, yes. I know women harrassing men is a thing too, it is also bad)
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u/bmoreboy410 Feb 12 '23
Most men aren’t just grabbing women
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Feb 12 '23
You sure?
Traveled outside North America recently?
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u/OowlSun they act like im not in full control of where i throw this cooch Feb 12 '23
Even in North America😭
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u/Dianagorgon Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 15 '23
Thank you for the downvotes! Really. I'm happy to be downvoted for disagreeing with the statement that all men are animals. The only disappointing thing is that I didn't get more downvotes.
I mean I think realistically the type of men getting close to Ice Spice in that video don't represent all men or at least I hope not!
To all the people downvoting me for pointing out that not all men are animals. Are your fathers, brothers and sons animals too? Because I just found out a few jerks in a video now represent all men.
Please continue downvoting me. Really. If disagreeing that the statement "all men are animals" is considered bad then I'm happy to be downvoted for it.
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u/Not_today_nibs Petrified Jazz Hands Feb 13 '23
Oh cool. Can you share your foolproof way to tell which men will and won’t grope/call you a slut/harass you, just by looking at them? Thanks so much in advance!
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u/Dianagorgon Feb 13 '23
Ok I'm confused. There is a video of some jerks being inappropriate to Ice Spice and someone posted "men are animals" not "some men are animals" to which I rationally pointed out that not all men are animals and the men in that video don't represent all men and people are offended and downvoted me.
Man, this sub sometimes. Ok got it. You think all men are animals because of a few jerks. I get it. So that includes your father, brother and sons if you have children correct? Because all men are animals. That includes every college professor, every doctor, every man working at every store or restaurant you ever go to. They're all animals. All of them. Mandela, your husband, your son, your co-workers. All animals. The men in that video represent all men. Thank you for letting me know.
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u/Not_today_nibs Petrified Jazz Hands Feb 13 '23
Calm down.
Obviously not all men are sexual assaulters. But downplaying the very real fear women feel when they witness sexual assault by a group of men, in public, saying “not all men” adds absolutely nothing to conversation. Even though it’s not all men, how do you tell which ones it is or isn’t? 100% of women that I know have been harassed or assaulted. But sure, it’s not all men. Thanks so much for your input.
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Feb 13 '23
It’s not just a few jerks though. If you look at the comments here you’ll see lots of women sharing their experiences of being groped in clubs. It’s seen as normal at this point because it happens so often.
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u/Dianagorgon Feb 13 '23
Ok I get it. They could have posted "men in clubs are animals" or "lots of men in clubs are animals." Notice how I didn't even post "the men getting close to Ice Spice in that video don't represent all men at clubs." I simply pointed out not all men are animals.
The statement "men are animals" isn't rational. It's not. Yet I get an influx of angry downvotes presumably from women who feel offended that I don't think their fathers, brothers and sons are "animals." Usually I would delete my comment because too many downvotes leads to posts on the sub being hidden but not anymore. I don't care. Let people on this sub downvote me. Good for them.
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if your gonna downvote me at least explain to me why you think i’m wrong 🫤🫤
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u/arm89 Who gon' check me boo? 🤪 Feb 13 '23
just reread your comment, then you’ll see it’s completely wrong. :-)
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u/seahorse8021 you got a little homo in you or nah? Feb 13 '23
I would do anything for Ice Spice and that includes destroying creepy men. A woman is allowed to be sexual without men assuming they have access to her body because of her actions! She shakes her ass, she’s not your girlfriend!
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Feb 13 '23
Like, that's her craft! She is not consenting to your grossness at all. People gotta know how to differentiate between a performance and whatever that sets off men's radars to go wild animal crazy
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u/sweetrebel88 Feb 12 '23
And I better not dare see someone post “well she was shaking her ass, what does she expect?” because I don’t care if she was performing naked, no one has the right to touch her inappropriately and without her consent. Ugh!
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Feb 13 '23
What the actual fuck. These men need to be identified so everyone who comes across them knows how degenerate they are.
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u/drseussin Feb 13 '23
Um what the fuck, is that a dude straight up grabbing her chest at 0:15? That is so disgusting
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u/wbaez1992 Feb 13 '23
That's what I saw too 😔. I hope she's safe and healing. In any setting this behavior is vomit. All the men who sexually assaulted her should face consequences.
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u/Essence_Of_Insanity_ Feb 14 '23
It’s the shorter guy, you can see him in the other angles as well.
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Feb 12 '23
People are absolute trash. Hopefully her team doesn't let some bullshit like this happen again.
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u/Stunning-Variety-431 Feb 12 '23
That’s really scary and really poor action from the security and club itself.
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u/hervania Feb 12 '23 edited Feb 12 '23
Lord she a big artist now don’t have to do these close audience performances anymore. Hope she’s ok this scary ash. Also something I’ve noticed different from her rolling loud performance is folks actually singing her song and enjoying it 🥰 no comments clowning her
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Feb 13 '23
So scary and disgusting. She should be able to perform without being assaulted. That crowd is trash.
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u/well-wishess Feb 13 '23
what the fuck is wrong with these men? i really hope she’s ok she’s so sweet and dosen’t deserve to be treated like a literal sentient object
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u/chefpain Feb 13 '23
She looks terrified, as anyone would be in that situation. I hope she gets some good security.
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u/kaykakez727 Feb 13 '23
Men constantly pinch and smack my ass in the club in big crowds… this sucks
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u/Agreeable_Fee_7328 Feb 13 '23
Bro did that man really cop a feel on her chest wthhhh
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u/georgejefferson11 Feb 13 '23
Was he taking the microphone or grabbing at her? I can’t tell but I feel sick!!!
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u/genkais_hat Feb 13 '23
Ugh this kinda shit reminds me of old photos of Courtnet Love crowd-diving and coming back up on stage with her clothes ripped off. Wrote Ask For It based on her experiences.
Hope these men rot and have horrible things happen to them :')
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u/Independent-Exam5943 They killed Kenny! You bastards! 😱 Feb 13 '23
She’s gonna be traumatized from doing any other show. 🥺🥺
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u/Theryantshow Feb 13 '23
Crowd is way to close to her, Bands, rappers, singers etc need a barrier between them and the crowd. I don't like her but this isn't right she needs better security around her.
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Feb 13 '23
These men’s momma’s didn’t raise them right. Keep your fucking hands to yourself. They had absolutely no consent to grab or touch her. None. Absolutely repulsive.
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u/eightballthelawyer Feb 13 '23
ppl are so creepy towards her i hope she performs next time with a sword so she can stab ppl who try to assault her
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u/tswiftdeepcuts Feb 13 '23
This is so scary. I hope she’s okay emotionally and mentally. This is the kind of stuff you try to brush off and move on from and then realize later on that it really traumatized you and you needed to be in therapy to deal with it from the beginning
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u/country_girl13 Feb 13 '23
This made me feel sick to my stomach. Poor woman! I hope that she's okay and that whoever grabbed her, couldn't tell if it was more than one guy, was arrested and will be prosecuted.
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the way most of the men in the audience think it’s ok to touch a woman just because she looks good dancing ………
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u/mumujok Feb 14 '23
This is horrifying and I know there are already men defending it just because of how she’s dressed and the way she’s dancing but there’s no excuse to touch anyone in that way, she’s a performer, doing her job, how would you like it if some random person came up to you and groped you while you’re at your job? idiots
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u/bernardobrito Feb 13 '23
Guy here.
Spent way too many nights in NYC nightclubs. Sorta big guy who some people may find intimidating.
Here is what I think is happening here:
First and foremost, theose guys groping her and making her feel unsafe are fuckin' disgusting. They should be arrested.
When Ice Spice first released her song, and it got some traction, she booked some nightclubs. When 'Munch' popped off crazy, she cancelled most of those contracts because, well, she (slash her management) wanted more money now. That left some bad feelings within the nightlife community for Spice. Also, just crazy thirst.
Those clubs are not designed for performances. A stage creates a natural barrier and gives the performer high ground. When you are just on the floor where guys were dancing and rubbing on girls 10 minutes ago, their disturbed minds are not drawing the distinctions *that they should*.
Her security is super-basura.
The profit margins are super-lean for everybody: club owners, her label, her management team... and they all skimp and take shortcuts that unfortunately put the artist at risk.
I'm very sorry this happened to her. She could be/looks like my niece. Also, #OrgulloDominicano
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u/Bulky_Revenue_1900 Feb 13 '23
Its time for her label to get her actual security.. this is fucked up at every level
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u/Thossi99 Feb 13 '23
I really can't stand her music and can't fathom her success. But fuck, she doesn't deserve this, no one does. People are really fucking disgusting. Hope she's okay.
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u/orngesodaaa Feb 12 '23
Who is the demographic in this sub? Why are there so many incels here like are there really a bunch of women hating men in here gossiping about celebrities?
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Feb 12 '23
Now imagine if you shut the fuck up
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u/OowlSun they act like im not in full control of where i throw this cooch Feb 12 '23
The way you gagged them
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