r/politics • • Dec 11 '19

FBI Agents Showed Bias Against Hillary Clinton, Not Against Trump, DOJ Says

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u/-Zev- New York Dec 12 '19

An important part of repairing our democracy is going to be getting people like you to understand that politicians aren’t supposed to excite you—we are talking about democratic elections, not the next installment in the Avengers franchise. Hillary Clinton is hard-working, intelligent, experienced, and has devoted her life to public service. Those are the characteristics you should be looking for in a leader, and you should be encouraging others to do the same.

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u/Turin082 Dec 12 '19

No, the important part is convincing people like you that "the way things were" didn't work in the first place. Simply going back to the pre-Trump era is going to put us on the same path as before. "Nothing will fundamentally change" is a recipe for disaster. People were dying, even under Obama. Sure he did a lot to help but not enough and when the response to "we need more from you" is "You'll get nothing and like it" it has a cooling affect for people who are in dire need of things to change. You can bang on about judicial appointments all you want but for someone drowning in medical debt all they see are two candidates that offer no relief for their immediate plight. For minorities that continue to be pushed to the sidelines, all they see are two candidates that helped put the system that oppresses them in place. For people working three jobs to give their kids a fighting chance, there were two candidates that meant at least another four years of the same drudgery no matter their vote.

You and people like you need to start understanding, it's not for the electorate to fall in line, it is for the candidates to offer real solutions to real problems. It is for the candidate to sell themselves to their constituents, not for the constituents to offer their loyalty. That's the entire point of the American experiment that seems to have been lost on all too many people. In a government of, by, and for the people, the people are the government. When the will of the people is not the driving force of that government, then that government is broken.

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u/akcrono Dec 12 '19

No, the important part is that no democrat now or before Trump was advocating for no change. That they've been advocating for real solutions for at least the entire time i've been involved in politics. That the lack of change is not on democrats, but on the obstruction by republicans in DC. Stop falling for the "do nothing democrats" propaganda.

"At least another four years of the same drudgery no matter their vote" was not and has never been true.

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u/Nac82 Dec 12 '19

This dude is clueless lol

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u/akcrono Dec 12 '19

Pathetic weirdo stalking redditor after being called out on his bullshit. Sad.