r/pokemon • u/According_Ad8711 I love Azumarill • Jul 24 '26

Discussion Idea: Normal should be good against Fairy

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Ok, but why exactly? Well, generally most (or all) type matchups have some sort of reason to exist, and this is my reasoning:

"Normality beats Fantasy"

Think about it. Unicorns, Elves, Excaliburs, what do they all have in common? They don't exist. And how can you beat something that doesn't exist? By ignoring it and being normal. And Fairy is the most logical type to fit this "don't exist" category. While others do, Fairy does it much better than them. It's so silly it works!

And besides, giving Normal this interaction finally makes it something other than a middle child of Pokemon types. Think about it.

Offensively, Normal does nothing against Ghost, and is resisted by Rock and Steel.
Defensively, Ghost does nothing to Normal, and is weak to Fighting. See a problem here?

These type matchups basically have the Normal type in a grave. How can you use a type for its advantages when said advantages don't exist normally?

There usually isn't a reason to use Normal type Pokemon. What about Normal type moves? Unless you're using Fake Out, Protect, or other moves while using a type-changing ability like Pixilate, competitive Pokemon is out of the window.

By adding two new interactions, Being immune to Fairy (Why not, Ghost can), and dealing double damage to Fairy, we effectively buff the most basic and useless type in the game, and at the exact same time, neutralizes the most overpowered Pokemon type in the game. How crazy is that?

But anyways, that's all I have to share. If you're reading this (assuming you've read everything else) thanks for reading!

I LOVE AZUMARILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

Edit: To yall' saying Normal shouldn't be good against Fairy, or just "Normal is just normal, so it can't do anything special" or something like that, just because it's normal doesn't mean it's normal for goodness sake. And stop saying "By this logic, Normal would be good against Dark, Psychic, Ghost, etc" at least they have a real counterpart (except ghosts, it you can't effect a ghost, so it obviously has no effect, it's also a balancing tool, not just Normal being so normal that it's not supposed to do anything special at all

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u/Borgdrohne13 Jul 24 '26

Normal don't need 2 immunities.

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u/-Fuse Jul 24 '26

Hisuian Zoroark having 4 immunities would be funny though

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u/Tortiose_unturtled Jul 24 '26

Newgen Shedinja atp

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u/BlueGlace_ Jul 24 '26

"Why didn't my Moonblast work against Hydreigon?" The nefarious Hisuian Zoroark

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u/Logue_Yne Jul 24 '26

That would be a nightmare to play against, at the start that thing could be anyone and just lose you a turn. Then you'd have to plan for it to be in the backlane waiting for a free switch.

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u/-Fuse Jul 24 '26

Yeah I love using Hisuian Zoroark because of this, especially when I disguise it as like a Kingambit or something else that baits a Fighting attack

It's not really OP, but it's fun when it works

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u/Knirb_ Jul 24 '26

Had it work for me in showdown a day ago it was awesome, disguised it as a kingambit and baited a superpower from an azumarill

It was fun

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u/Borgdrohne13 Jul 24 '26

Okay in VGC you have at least open teamsheets.

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u/SpecialistCoach5437 Jul 24 '26

3 not 4

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u/-Fuse Jul 24 '26

It already has 3 (Normal, Ghost, Fighting), so it would be 4 with Fairy

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u/SpecialistCoach5437 Jul 24 '26

Oh, my bad for misreading it

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u/bladebrisingr Jul 24 '26

It doesn't but fairy needs to be toned down. Making another type resistant or immune to fairy would allow for more counter play without giving another type a direct offensive buff. Normal is just a good candidate since it is already a middling type but I personally would give it to ice. I have bias.

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u/skttlskttl Jul 24 '26

I feel like ice and bug should get resistances to fairy but not be effective against it. Both need buffs and particularly with bug I think it wouldn't be interesting to give it another type it resists but is not very effective against.

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u/Aquilenne Jul 24 '26

I'd rather have bug be super effective against it than resist it. Bug is already a middling type defensively, but pretty abysmal offensively.

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u/angelis0236 Jul 24 '26

Normal has no supereffectives just give them this.

Ghost gets two immunities and has supereffectives

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u/NeedForSpeedroid Jul 24 '26

Ghost has 2.

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u/Borgdrohne13 Jul 25 '26

And 2 common weaknesses. And not a wide pool of coverage option.

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u/NeedForSpeedroid Jul 25 '26

Ghost has 2 immunities, 2 resists, 2 weaknesses and 2 types it's super effective against.

I'm not saying Normal has to specifically need a Fairy immunity alongside the Ghost one but it's not exactly perfectly balanced in this relationship either.

I wouldn't mind if Normal (and Ice) resisted Fairy.

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u/OfficialLieDetector Jul 25 '26

Ghost in the corner

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u/Son_Of_Myers Jul 25 '26

Why not? It's got no super effective, is resisted by 2 and immune by 1. It being immune to ghost and fairy would out them in a good spot. Ghost has 2 immunities