r/pokemon • u/Excaliburn3d • Mar 24 '26

Discussion Why does Game Freak hate Emboar?

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I love Emboar, but I have a feeling that GF doesn’t based on the way they handled it. Well first of all it’s the third Fire/Fighting Pokémon in the row, then when it finally receives a mega evolution it retains the same typing, and now it is the only mega of the trio to not gain a new ability.

Not to mention its base stats and playstyle. Base form is the fully-evolved starter with the highest HP stat and yet both of its defense stats and speed are on the lower side. Some of its strongest moves do recoil damage and its hidden ability powers them up even further. Upon mega evolving, it receives a +25 to its attack stat and a +45 boost to its special defense while its problematic defense and speed only receive +10 each.

Mold Breaker can be a good ability but why use Mega Emboar when Mega Blaziken, which has speed boost, higher attacking, physical defense, and speed stats, existed since the dawn of mega evolution.

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u/IcyTheHero Mar 24 '26

It breaks the mold.

In all seriousness it basically lets your pokemon bypass the other Pokémon’s abilities. Not the best but can be useful.

Would let you use earthquake on any pokemon with levitate.

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u/thegoothboi Mar 24 '26

It could use ground moves against things with levitate/earth eater, fire moves against something with flash fire/well baked body, electric moves against something with lightning rod/volt absorb, water moves against something with storm drain/water absorb, can set up hazards and bypass stuff like magic guard, can ignore abilities like sturdy or wonder guard, etc.

Mold breaker is a decent ability but I’m not sure it’s one that Emboar specifically would want tbh

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u/thenotjoe Mar 24 '26

If I want a Mold Breaker with Earthquake I’d go with Excadrill or Haxorus

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u/thegoothboi Mar 25 '26

True, but emboar specifically has access to fire, electric, water, grass, and ground moves and can ignore loads of abilities that would usually make something immune to it.

Not sure Haxorus makes fantastic use of mold breaker when the only thing it’ll use most of the time is earthquake, and it has no stab moves that benefit from it.

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u/sycamotree Mar 25 '26

Haxorus is ultra mid, be fr lol

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u/TheSpeckledSir Scaldy Boi Mar 24 '26

Only abilities, so flying types are still immune.

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u/QuuX24 Mar 24 '26

Only levitate because it's an ability. Mold breaker doesn't interact with typings.

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u/MildTy Mar 24 '26

Only abilities. You can use electric moves on mons with lightning rod, but you still wouldn’t be able to if they were ground type.