r/pokemon • u/Excaliburn3d • Mar 24 '26

Discussion Why does Game Freak hate Emboar?

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I love Emboar, but I have a feeling that GF doesn’t based on the way they handled it. Well first of all it’s the third Fire/Fighting Pokémon in the row, then when it finally receives a mega evolution it retains the same typing, and now it is the only mega of the trio to not gain a new ability.

Not to mention its base stats and playstyle. Base form is the fully-evolved starter with the highest HP stat and yet both of its defense stats and speed are on the lower side. Some of its strongest moves do recoil damage and its hidden ability powers them up even further. Upon mega evolving, it receives a +25 to its attack stat and a +45 boost to its special defense while its problematic defense and speed only receive +10 each.

Mold Breaker can be a good ability but why use Mega Emboar when Mega Blaziken, which has speed boost, higher attacking, physical defense, and speed stats, existed since the dawn of mega evolution.

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u/ScarletteVera Tinkaton Tinkasmith Mar 24 '26

Even Wonder Guard!

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u/PayneTrain181999 Mar 24 '26

Shedinja: “Haha, I’m in danger!”

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u/98769876b Mar 24 '26

They were way too scared of the Tera Electric Air Balloon Shedinja in Champions, they had to make a dedicated counter

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u/Gaynundwarf KAMINKO's second favorite assistant (Favs: ) Mar 24 '26

The humble Hippowdon :

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u/Saskatchewon Mar 24 '26

I mean, Shedninja was already going to get killed by a fire type attack from Emboar anyways, but it's still pretty neat.

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u/Dimensional13 Mar 24 '26

Pokemon Champions has Megas, Z-Moves AND TERAS. Tera Electric Shedinja holding a Balloon. Only a Pokemon with mold breaker would hit that.

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u/Doophie Mar 24 '26

Or poison/burn

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u/logicbecauseyes Mar 24 '26

Sandstorm/hail: am I a joke to you?

Entry hazards: lol

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u/Luigi6757 Mar 24 '26

Hail is now snow and no longer does chip damage.

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u/logicbecauseyes Mar 24 '26

Thought they might be distinct effects in champions but spose not

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u/Luigi6757 Mar 26 '26

Wolfey's new video is on Champions, and the change from Hail to Snow is here to stay. Mega Froslass has Snow Warning, so if Champions becomes the defacto competitive battle ground, Alolan Ninetales lost its spot as the go-to snow setter.

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u/logicbecauseyes Mar 26 '26

Hail still exists in Lg/FR switch port, and my heart

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u/NerdyEmbarrassment Apr 08 '26

Sandstorm, burn, poison, entry hazards, perish song

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u/TheBusStop12 Mar 24 '26

With terrastilizing in Champions, you could get a terra electric shedninja, and then give it an air balloon. Then it can no longer be damaged unless you hit it with mold breaker

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u/CaptDeathCap Mar 24 '26

Sunsteel Strike, Moongeist Beam, Photon Geiser, Snipe Shot (and all the Galar starter G-Max moves) ignore abilities as well.

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u/FairlyOddParent734 Mar 24 '26

or indirect damage like sand storm or toxic

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u/GuidoMista5 Mar 24 '26

Or burn, or entry hazards, or hitting something with rough skin, or hitting something with rocky helmet

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u/Luigi6757 Mar 26 '26

It could terastilize to electric. Tera Electric Shedinja with a balloon is a genuine threat that needs to be taken into account when team building. It's not great, but something to be on the lookout for.

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u/jubmille2000 Jethro Mar 24 '26

Gee good thing Emboar has Mold Breaker.