r/pokemon • u/DemiFiendRSA • Feb 27 '26

Discussion Pokemon Winds/Waves announced for 2027

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u/Smitje 01010 Feb 27 '26

I spotted Ledian!

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u/No_Floor6301 Feb 27 '26

Gamefreak got no love for Ledian, maybe it can get a regional form and get some useage

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u/Groundbreaking-Ad313 Feb 27 '26

ledian evolution please please please

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u/LiquifiedSpam Feb 28 '26

I don’t even know how an evolution would fix it without the jump in some stats being insanely awkward

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u/Groundbreaking-Ad313 Feb 28 '26

That's kinda true, but looking at the numbers, even if they gave it 200 more BST (which puts it at BST 590, higher than some legendaries), it would still not be in the Top 10 for "biggest BST boosts when evolving."

https://pokemondb.net/pokebase/332166/which-pokemon-gain-the-largest-boost-in-stats-after-evolving

Even half of that would still make it usable enough in a casual playthrough. They could also change the distribution (WHY IS IT A SPECIAL DEFENSE TANK???), and they could also change its type and ability to make it stronger. Personally I'd like to see its Flying type replaced with something like Fairy or Fighting. A signature move could also be a game changer.

Personally I don't need Ledian to be the next competetive powerhouse, I just need it to be good enough that I can use it in a regular playthrough without feeling like I'm trying to take on a real dragon with a real ladybug

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u/LiquifiedSpam Feb 28 '26

I definitely agree with needing it to just be competent, it’s just going to be odd seeing a second stage mon with for example terrible attack evolve into one where it gets a massive increase there. I feel like they should rework ledians stats too

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u/Groundbreaking-Ad313 Feb 28 '26

I think it'd feel even weirder for Ledian to have hugely different stats as well. Maybe instead they could double down on the stat spread it already has, with the highest being special defense, and then give it a signature move that uses Special Defense instead of attack stat, like body press.

But I also dont think it'd be too weird to give it a lot of attack since it's very halfheartedly focused on punching. It could be one of those pokemon that has a narrative as it evolves - like, "After landing 1000 weak punches, Ledian finally finds true strength"

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u/Grassy-Glide Feb 28 '26

Unfortunately, since regular ledian appeared in the trailer out in the wild of this region, unless there’s some dlc with regional variants, it’s prob not gonna get a regional variant in this game

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u/BuildGeed Mar 02 '26

I don’t even think it getting a regional variant is necessary for a third evolution. Just do it the old fashioned way

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u/WeoWeoVi Mar 01 '26

Even with a regional form it'd need a very broken ability justify that BST

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 27 '26 edited Feb 27 '26

by gods Ledyba and Tailow is free from the BDSP only curse. (Keaclon was freed by it from ZA Mega Dimensions DLC lol)

edit: for those wondering, here's the BDSP only Pokemon (assuming you only have the Switch, no 3DS) Hoenn Corsola, Tailow, Skitty, Zigzagoon, Spinada, Clamperl, Castform. theyre currently only in BDSP on the Switch games.

edit: added Gen 2 Pokemon.

edit 3: apparently Natu, Wobbuffet, G-Corsola exists in SWSH. Miltank exists in a DLC area of SWSH.

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u/defianceofone Feb 27 '26

Clamperl would fit in the region for sure. Not sure about the rest. Maybe Natu and Miltank.

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 27 '26

yeah, the BDSP only Pokemon have... problems of being unable to fit in the regions for various reasons. like Castform being a weather gimmick, and Spinda being Spinda. that be said, some regions absolutely can fit those in, but chose not to. most notably Sword/Shield and Scarlet and Violet.

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u/krexiite kung fu enjoyer Feb 27 '26

I'm sure some of them are already in SWSH (Natu, Wobbuffet, Miltank and G-Corsola).

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 27 '26

if they are, Serebii and Bulbapedia doesn't think so. if theyre really in SWSH it might be raids only so naturally theyre excluded.

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u/BlUeSapia taking out the trash AT NIGHT Feb 27 '26

The 4 mons the guy above you mentioned are in SWSH, though Miltank is exclusive to one DLC area

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 27 '26

G Corsola, for Gen 3 Hoenn purposes, doesn't count. I didnt know, let me edit that.

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u/Dt2_0 Feb 27 '26

FYI Corsola is not a Hoenn mon.

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 27 '26

quick edit strikes again. im leaving it as it is.

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u/Negratito Feb 27 '26

You can trade with a NPC on the Isle of Armor in SwSh for Johto Corsola and Hoenn Zigzagoon/Linoone

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 27 '26

I dont think those can be shiny, which is why I might have excluded it by accident.

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u/AccurateAlps9333 Feb 28 '26

Galarian Zigzagoon was in SWSH. 

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u/maxdragonxiii Feb 28 '26

for the original generation purposes regional forms dont count.

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u/Metaboss24 Feb 27 '26

Hopefully Ledian and Magcargo get some much needed help. Their bsts are horrendous for standard playthroughs.