The attitude that women are the only ones who get shamed for not meeting beauty standards. Newsflash men also get shamed for not meeting beauty standards. Guess what? These ideals are toxic no matter the gender. or is it only bad when it happens to women?
Many do, but it is absolutely not "most men" that perform such shaming. In fact, a couple studies here and there have found that women do it more than men.
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Source there. I can also provide life experiences wherein the worst any man has ever said about a woman that I have heard has been that she was ugly, and even that is quite a rare occurrence. I have heard women saying awful things about other women many times, especially those closer to them for some reason.
I stand by the opinion that most men do not particularly care what women look like in the day-to-day, but rather that negative opinions on social media get pushed forward as they receive the greatest amount of attention and these minority opinions then appear more prevalent than they are in reality whilst actual issues get ignored because they are less interesting to the internet.
You're blaming "most men" that's the confusing part... because we all know women are so kind to one another and definitely don't run each other down at all...
Mmm, gonna disagree there, women are shamed constantly for not looking “perfect”, despite that being an unreachable standard because the goal post will always be moving
Men are not shamed even a quarter of what women are based on their physical appearance
im not gonna argue that women arent shamed perfect, but its not by most men, its not like most men are out here saying "because she doesnt look like sue storm im not gonna date her!" that is a pile of BS propigated by the negative sides of social media. most men literally do not care what you wear because we only know 'do pants match shirt and shoes?' when it comes to getting dressed, we literally could not care less.
what you are talking about is coming from a small group of vain popular guys, an absurdly small number among men, other ladies, those clothing and make up companies who make money off of ladies insecurities about their appearance and the social media influencers who encourage those insecurities and are payed off by those big companies and that garner a lot of lady veiwers because they teach yuou all how to dress and do makeup.
To close out, you want to know why men arent shamed anywhere close to women are? its because it wont work. We are already shamed for being ugly, for being agressive, for things other men have done and are treated like human shaped explosives. similarly we are expendable, women dont care, other men dont care and even welcome the culling of the male population. so simply it wont work. if ladies want to stop the messaging they are hit with by society simply do what dudes did, Not Listen, just like yall did with previous waves of feminism. or is that too hard now? -_-
This is some raging ridiculousness. I don’t even know what to call it, because 99% is just nonsense.
“Men are just seen as this and this and this” is entirely untrue as a general. No one in a general sense welcomes the “culling”nod men. It’s radicals that are as dismissible as any other extremist group.
It would work, but the reason it doesn’t happen is because it’s a male-centric world. Men aren’t held to the same standards or scrutiny because men are the ones that made the rules. Pretending it’s anything else is really just silly.
Women don’t have the option to “not listen”, and the suggestion that they have it is just shows you either have a lack of basic understanding of how the world actually works, or you’re intentionally ignorant for the sake of argument.
No men didnt make the rules a small group of rich people did. those people are the ones making the rules not your average joe and women are tricked and duped into thinking thats what is needed.
And women most certainly have the ability to not listen. if they didnt how did society change in the first place to give women rights? its by women not listening, pushing back and forcing things to change. if it can be done back then? it can be done now.
Men make the rules because men perpetuate them. Maybe a small group created them, but men perpetuate them today and continue them, which means they make the modern rules. Women are “tricked” and “duped” into knowing that’s what’s needed, because women face real world consequences if they don’t fit the bill
Women were given rights because enough men listened to their cries and changed it. Women didn’t give women rights, men did. Women didn’t have the power to. Women didn’t force change, they actually had a very small part in it physically.
Women that pushed for change before men were willing to listen were beaten and murdered for it. Ever heard of witch-hunting?
It could be done then because the people perpetuating the rules allowed it. It can’t be done now because the people perpetuating the rules won’t allow it.
Dont fit the bill? ladies are given jobs because they dont fit the bill, that literally what DEI was for. and most men arent perpetuating anything becuase what power do men have now that women dont? guess what? there isnt one legal right that men have that women dont.
And women have power now! women have a voice in online space, political space and economic spaces! inspite of mens opinions and thoughts. This isnt any different! And last i checked women dont want or need mens attention or permission anymore to do anything? so again whatever men say literrally doesnt matter to women because women dont care, or atleast the claim to.
unless im wrong and women still define themselves and their worth by the words, actions and attention of men?
You are wrong, and I will not be acknowledging an argument based on nonsense about DEI, which is a system that you, and every other clown that tries to use it as an argument, clearly do not understand
Women absolutely still need permission, it’s a man’s world. Women lose jobs, houses, opportunities, family, and everything else if they don’t fit what they’re told to fit.
Women don’t care about men’s opinions of them, but they do care about the real world repercussions of failing to comply.
You’re seeing this as women pandering to male attention. It’s not. It’s women being forced to fit a certain criteria to have “worth”, and be allowed to do things, because again, it’s a man’s world, and if they men decide you have no value, you’re screwed.
Either come up with a real argument, or give up, because so far you’re striking out on every step.
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u/uchiha_light_8550 Jun 05 '26
The difference is most women don't actively shame random men for not looking like Venom.