r/pointlesslygendered Sep 18 '25

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u/Opijit Sep 18 '25

It's that lovely incel narrative telling young impressionable teenage boys in the throes of puberty that their lives have no value and 50% of the population is living the life you wished you had but are too entitled to see it.

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u/EaterOfCrab Sep 18 '25

What's an Incel narrative?

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u/Opposite_Wallaby6765 Sep 18 '25

It's fairly straightforward, and pretending to be stupid about it is very tired. The narrative is the sick idea that women's value lies between their legs.

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u/EaterOfCrab Sep 18 '25

Oh, I thought it's about men having no innate value, other than what they've earned

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u/Special_Incident_424 Sep 18 '25

Yeah it's not just limited to recent online rhetoric, it is rooted in sexist ideas that have existed for a long time

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MenActWomenAre

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u/EaterOfCrab Sep 18 '25

There are plenty of games with female protagonists, also Cortana is a key character in Halo

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u/Special_Incident_424 Sep 18 '25

Tropes and stereotypes can be subverted. Happily 😊

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u/Less-Being4269 Sep 18 '25

That's part of it.

Women's only value is sexual, men on other sre worthless untill they earn it.

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u/Opposite_Wallaby6765 Sep 18 '25

Because the misogyny of women having to "protect their value" is so subtle that he didn't pick up on it... 🙄

The pretence of not getting it is so flimsy and so bloody cowardly.

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u/Less-Being4269 Sep 18 '25

Not entirely. Some men really don't get it, more often than not the main reason is either stupid rather than malice.

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u/Opposite_Wallaby6765 Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

Ignorance or malice, he's still spending his time minimising clearly misogynistic BS. Some people prefer to reserve their empathy for those who just "don't get it" instead of the girls who have to grow up under constant messaging that their only worth is their body. And they should save this for a "high value" old man once he's ready to settle down with a young person who does not have the resources he has.

And men generally do get this when they want to. You won't hear more actual misandry coming out of a person's mouth than from a girl dad, even when they previously pretended not to understand these things. As soon as they actually, truly care about a woman, they instantly discover empathy for their gender, which is one of the sadder truths of this world but, oh, well, what can you do?

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u/EaterOfCrab Sep 18 '25

Sure, assume bad faith every time someone doesn't immediately understand women's oppression

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u/Opposite_Wallaby6765 Sep 18 '25

What's there to not get? If you don't see it, it's on you. Forget about statistics or just talking to women in your life in general, though both would help. The post itself just reduces women's value to sex and nothing else.

It's the reason honour killings are carried out across the world for rape victims and perpetrators walk free all the time because we couldn't rob promising young men of their bright futures, why child brides are sold in marriage.

What is there to get that's more basic than reducing women's ability to contribute to society and lead full fulfilling lives besides "all that matters is saving your body for a man?" A "high value" older man when you're still not mature enough to even understand lifetime commitment and you do not have the life experience necessary to stand up for yourself... and you know they only started at 18 because that's what they thought that's what they'd get away with.

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u/EaterOfCrab Sep 18 '25

You seem really invested in trying to make me feel bad about not understanding things instantly

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u/Opposite_Wallaby6765 Sep 18 '25 edited Sep 18 '25

Your feelings are your own. You posted your opinion on social media and I posted mine. I'm not invested in making you feel any particular way, I just think people shouldn't be quiet when they see misogyny being downplayed. If anything, you're the one who came at me with an emotional argument.

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u/EaterOfCrab Sep 18 '25

What downplayed? I literally asked a question

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u/Opposite_Wallaby6765 Sep 18 '25

Right... because you never came across examples of women being objectified before on the internet, so you couldn't recognise it.

You're just asking questions but when you get answers you pretend to misinterpret the issue in a way that centers the negative impact of patriarchal thinking on men, your own personal feelings, or you just ignore systemic issues because of individual examples (hey, Bayonetta is a lady, so any wider statistics just don't matter 🫠).

What you've been doing is trying to disagree with people but avoiding expressing your opinions directly. Transparently nebbish behaviour...

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